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Should an Evangelical Vote for a Mormon for President? [Popular Theologian Opines]
normgeisler.com ^ | Norman Geisler

Posted on 06/21/2012 9:36:35 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

According to the US Constitution (Article VI), "No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." So, given the way the Supreme Court has interpreted the Constitution, Mormons are not eliminated from the presidency. Of course, there are no Constitutional prohibitions forbidding a citizen from voting for or against someone because of their religious (or irreligious) beliefs.

So, what should an evangelical Christian do in the coming presidential election between Barak Obama and Mitt Romney? I cannot speak for others, let alone for all evangelicals, but I can tell you what one evangelical voter is going to do and why. Here are some of the main principles that come into play in my decision.


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To: SoFloFreeper

Would an evangelical expect to get the Mormon vote for being Christian?


41 posted on 06/21/2012 11:37:37 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: SoFloFreeper; All
From Geisler: Fourth, there are other issues that are important—character counts. In the character contest, from what I know of the two candidates, Romney wins on personal moral character. Both his individual and political integrity appears to be much better than that of his rival

So...we have Geisler commending Romney's "Political integrity???"

This is the man that pioneered socialist healthcare?
This is the man who failed to vigorously defend one-man, one-woman marriage in MA?
This is the man who gave us $50 taxpayer funded abortions that are now -- in some cases -- FREE for the woman to abort her babies?
This is the man who's swung back so many times on abortion -- and who his wife told Parade Mag last November that Mitt's "always been pro-life." ???
This is the man who appeared @ Planned Parenthood fundraisers in '94, who had his wife give $ to Planned Parenthood in '94, who took the initiative to answer two abortion industry voters guides in 2002, who ensured a Planned Parenthood permanent rep of MA Commonwealth healtchare would always be there, and who was on the board of the Marriott when it decided to begin giving $ to Planned Parenthood -- and then became boycotted by Life Decisions Intl as a result!!! This is "political integrity," Norm???
This is the man who's changed his mind three times on whether embryos are worthy of protection -- with his last word on this (Dec 07)...no they shouldn't be...
This is the man who's changed his mind three times on whether "sexual orientation" in the workplace should be accorded minority class status???

And Geisler endorses all of his as "integrity???"

If that's the case, I question Geisler's very integrity!!!

42 posted on 06/21/2012 11:41:13 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: LukeSW

Continue in this vein your account goes *poof*.

By the way, FReep U McRomney!!


43 posted on 06/21/2012 11:44:36 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: SoFloFreeper; All
From Geisler: In such a world, even if one were faced with a dilemma between voting for a known Devil or for a suspected witch, he should not despair. He should vote for the suspected witch!

I guess this kind of sums up how Geisler's "discernment" has flown the coop.

Geisler is telling us that if you have a choice, say 'tween voting for THE Anti-Christ -- and a reincarnated Hitler...ya vote for the reincarnated Hitler.

Since he gave us a hypothetical here, likewise, I believe he is also telling you that if Obama loses in 2012...switches party to the (R)...and runs against a future more liberal (D)...that you should vote for Obama.

Imagine...all you former conservatives who are anti-Obama...preaching to us in some future election that we "have to vote for the lesser of 2 evils" -- and elect Obama...or choose 'tween the "real world" and the "ideal world" and elect Obama...and choose 'tween who would make less of a dent upon our bank accounts and elect Obama...

But that's exactly what happens when you build a sandy foundation upon pragmatic utilitarian political relativism.

Ah...such "sage" counsel from the "master" preaching pragmatic utilitarian political relativism.

44 posted on 06/21/2012 11:48:47 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
If that's the case, I question Geisler's very integrity!!!

Gee, that's a shocker. I'd hazard to guess you'd question Jesus' integrity if it suits your purpose.

45 posted on 06/21/2012 11:55:40 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: LukeSW; Jim Robinson
Dude, you need to recalibrate your knowledge of 20th century history.

And take a chill pill.

Better yet, make a mad dash back to DU. I'm stepping aside in advance of an incoming zot.

46 posted on 06/21/2012 11:58:16 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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To: LukeSW

Please tell me you are kidding....


47 posted on 06/21/2012 12:05:16 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

If it’s to get Obama out of the White House? Emphatically yes!


48 posted on 06/21/2012 12:06:40 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: LukeSW; svcw

And I have read about it in Nazi Germany.
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Im sure then you already know that Hitler let youir mormon proslytizing continue in Nazi Germany because you mormons agreed with him on killing the Jews and putting them in concentration camps...

Mormons were the only foreign religious groups allowed to stay in Nazi Germany...

The Christians were killed, imprisoned or expelled..

The mormons had that white supremist thingy going for them...

Plus they liked Hitler and told him so...

“Good job Adolf...”


49 posted on 06/21/2012 12:12:33 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Obama is a wicked man, elected by our wicked countrymen, held somewhat in check by God's protection for we Christians.

Romney is a Baal and Jupiter worshiping cult leader. Romney as president will move us nationally out of the frying pan and into the fire, inasmuch as it will be God who will destroy the country, with no one to pray to for help.

A vote for Romney mocks God.

"You shall have no other gods before Me"


50 posted on 06/21/2012 12:20:53 PM PDT by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: LukeSW

By the way, where does the Bible justify your religious racism?
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That woukld be the racism of the mormoins that you arte mentioning ...

Until 1978 the Mormons were out in the open racists and religious bigots...and now they are secret racists...

No black or colored man holds any middle or high office...

even after 35 years...

The mormons are still practicing religious bigots...


51 posted on 06/21/2012 12:21:42 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Tennessee Nana; LukeSW
Mormon authors Alan F. Keele and Douglas F. Tobler,

"The Führer's New Clothes

***Hitler enjoyed at least as much popularity among German Mormons as he did among the population in general. Church members even saw Hitler as God's instrument, preparing the world for the millennium.

***Thousands of Mormon families sent their sons to fight for the Reich. The vital importance of "Aryan" ancestry gave new significance to genealogical research. And the Führer himself, the non-smoking, non-drinking vegetarian who yielded to no one in his desire for absolute law and order, seemed to embody many of the most basic LDS virtues.

***An article written for a special issue of the Nazi Party organ Der Volkische Beobachter by the LDS Mission President to West Germany, Alfred C. Rees, "abounds in such loaded terms as Volk and Rasse (race), and a picture of Brigham Young bears the caption,'Führer der historischen Mormonenpioniere.' Very disturbing is the way President Rees blatantly parallels Mormonism with Nazism…Mormonism sounds like a fulfillment of Nazi teachings.

LukeSW, it might serve you well to learn mormonism history before you cast aspersions on Christians.

52 posted on 06/21/2012 12:27:22 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: OrangeHoof

Ideally, I’d like a president who openly expresses his fidelity to the Yahweh God of the Bible and prays to seek His will in America’s affairs.

However, more important
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Kid there is NOTHING more important that God...

You just blew your cover right there...


53 posted on 06/21/2012 12:27:47 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: colorcountry

Reagan used Mormons in California when he was Governor. He liked their work ethic, their honesty, and the clean lives they lived.
As President Reagan had 16 Mormoms in The White House or in his cabinet.
Most of you loved Ronald Reagan, why don’t you follow him regarding Mormon’s.


54 posted on 06/21/2012 12:43:46 PM PDT by lawsone
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To: Zakeet

Norm was my systematic theology professor and I am greatly saddened by his statement regarding this.

Christians do have another choice, vote our conscience. There is no such thing as the lesser of two evils, both are evil.


55 posted on 06/21/2012 12:47:13 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: SoFloFreeper

Ronald Reagan had 16 Mormons in The White House and his cabinet. He loved their work ethic, their honesty, and their clean lifestyle.
Maybe some of you should follow a Great President???


56 posted on 06/21/2012 12:48:33 PM PDT by lawsone
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To: SoFloFreeper

Ronald Reagan had 16 Mormons in The White House and his cabinet. He loved their work ethic, their honesty, and their clean lifestyle.
Maybe some of you should follow a Great President???


57 posted on 06/21/2012 12:48:48 PM PDT by lawsone
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To: SoFloFreeper

Ronald Reagan had 16 Mormons in The White House and his cabinet. He loved their work ethic, their honesty, and their clean lifestyle.
Maybe some of you should follow a Great President???


58 posted on 06/21/2012 12:48:52 PM PDT by lawsone
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To: SoFloFreeper

Ronald Reagan had 16 Mormons in The White House and his cabinet. He loved their work ethic, their honesty, and their clean lifestyle.
Maybe some of you should follow a Great President???


59 posted on 06/21/2012 12:49:22 PM PDT by lawsone
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To: lawsone

As President Reagan had 16 Mormoms in The White House or in his cabinet.
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President Reagan didnt hire them...

They were hired by their Mormon buddies...

Whether or not they were “honest” or had “clean lives”

Why didnt the Mormons in his cabinet hire Christians ???

BTW do you have a source for Ronald Reagan saying that he “liked their work ethic, their honesty, and the clean lives they lived” more than he liked the same for Christians ???

Ya notice he didnt pick a Mormon for his VP...


60 posted on 06/21/2012 12:52:34 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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