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To: New Jersey Realist

Minor makes it very clear to anyone with a basic understanding of English that there are two classes or concepts of citizenship. 1) Citizens at birth and 2) citizens by choice. Citizens by choice cannot run for president.

And that is why Minor sets precedent. If you are a citizen at birth then you are a natural born citizen with parents who are citizens. If one or both parents are not US citizens then you are a natural born citizen of the country of origin of your parents. If one parent is a US citizen and the other is not then there is dual citizenship of the child. All of those cases but the first is citizenship by law. Hence they are not natural born citizens.
I swore an oath, it is still operative.


93 posted on 06/23/2012 10:39:03 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse (RNC) will learn to sing)
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To: W. W. SMITH
You just don't get it. Follow the small minority of kooks, that is your choice.

I cannot find ONE place ANYWHERE that says "citizen parents" are required to be NBC. Not ONE PLACE; and apparently neither can anyone else. Even Vattel said that the English have different rules when he described indegenes and that is their right. Our country is based on English law.

Madison himself said, "It is an established maxim, that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth, however, derives its force sometimes from place, and sometimes from parentage; but, in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States.”

Case closed as far as I am concerned. If you think you know better than Madison, then go for it Chief but that is not supporting the constitution in my opinion.

95 posted on 06/23/2012 1:40:54 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: W. W. SMITH
If you are a citizen at birth then you are a natural born citizen with parents who are citizens. If one or both parents are not US citizens then you are a natural born citizen of the country of origin of your parents.

Nice theory that has nothing to do with actual US laws ...

96 posted on 06/23/2012 1:52:10 PM PDT by x
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