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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

“IMO that is well documented.”

By all means produce said documentation. Those few of us on FR who called out Bush for such nonsense as NCLB, Medicare Part D and NEA funds were attacked pretty relentlessly! While you’re at it, explain what went down from 02 to 06 when the GOP controlled both Houses in Congress and the White House and still managed to spend like drunken sailors. And why was the tea party content with Dubya’s spending binges but silent about them?


3 posted on 06/23/2012 6:29:45 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: KantianBurke
While you’re at it, explain what went down from 02 to 06 when the GOP controlled both Houses in Congress and the White House and still managed to spend like drunken sailors. And why was the tea party content with Dubya’s spending binges but silent about them?

Uuuh, possibly because the tea party didn't exist until 2009?

4 posted on 06/23/2012 6:39:36 AM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt, the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: KantianBurke
Those few of us on FR who called out Bush for such nonsense as NCLB, Medicare Part D and NEA funds were attacked pretty relentlessly!

Oh, you got that right. If you criticized his spending and entitlement program, you were called a troll or, bizzarely, a RINO because you didn't "defend our president." Conservatives can be as much of hero worshipers as Libs sometimes.

And on your substantive point, Lyndon Baines Bush was the worst big spender in years prior to Obama. He is only "conservative" when compared to Obama's truly insane, Socialist spending plan. Bush was a disaster for limited government, period.

17 posted on 06/23/2012 7:17:35 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: KantianBurke
While you’re at it, explain what went down from 02 to 06 when the GOP controlled both Houses in Congress and the White House and still managed to spend like drunken sailors.

Absolutely right on the money! After all the work done to get those yahoos elected, they turned around, stabbed us fiscal conservatives in the back, and spent like a bunch of drunken sailors. The GOP cannot be trusted. Not ever again. What more proof do we need that the GOP is really just a bunch of housebroken 'Rat wannabees than the fact that they just nominated Mittens?

I'd say that the GOP is actually worse than the 'Rats, because at least the 'Rats are in uniform. We know what they are and what they want, so we can mount an effective defense. In contrast, the GOP are really enemies masquerading as conservatives. We fail to sustain any sort of defense from Rove and his "Party of Big Government."

We conservatives are a minority in this country, but we're not so bad at defense. We need to understand that we can't win with the GOP and play defense until things get so bad people will awaken from their two-party delusion.

I'll vote for individual conservatives no matter what letter they have after their name. I voted Ron Paul in the primaries, will likely vote Libertarian in November.

19 posted on 06/23/2012 7:29:38 AM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: KantianBurke

“While you’re at it, explain what went down from 02 to 06 when the GOP controlled both Houses in Congress and the White House and still managed to spend like drunken sailors.”

The problem is in Congress and the way it writes laws. Programs it establishes streach on into infinity with yearly increases in their budgets. Increased spending may be the result of a combined total of these various programs......

Spending increases on auto-pilot are difficult to slow down. How many times have we heard about programs that the Congress or the President wanting to “cut” by slowing the rate of “increase.” Wanna hear a Democrat/congressman scream? just try to limit the percentage increase for one of their myriad pet programs. Doesn’t matter that the budget increases each and every year, if the percentage is reduced it’s a cut! The whole idea that a current president is soley responsible for the yearly increase in the budget
is fiction. This setup is rigged to shift blame at a politically opportune time with the assistance of a biased Media. “Those mean Republicans want to kill, mom/dad/the kids/grandma/grandpa (pick one) because they want to “cut” a program’s yearly budget increase from 6.5% t0 6,3%.....Horrors!!!!

Honestly neither you nor I can sort this stuff out. As they say in the Movies “Let’s Nuke it from outer space...it’s the only way to be sure.”

Every reformer runs into someone elses sacred cow spending program and the SHTF.

If serious in getting things in order we need to get back to Ground Zero spending wise. Make programs justify their very existance every year with cost benefit analysis......

Pointing fingers at this or that President won’t solve anything.....Most often they are trapped by the system.


20 posted on 06/23/2012 7:35:48 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: KantianBurke

IBITZ!

Tea Party didn’t even come into existence until after Obama got elected. Nice try, troll. See ya...


24 posted on 06/23/2012 7:42:37 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Behind enemy lines in the city where it's illegal to buy a Big Gulp)
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