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To: smokingfrog

Go shooting at night in the rocky desert sometime....
you would be amazed at the number of times you will
see the round create a spark as it glances off of a rock.

Now translate that same scenario to the hot dry cheat grass
covered high desert where the wind blows almost incessantly
during hot weather. The result is invariable lots of
fires that grow very quickly due to the conditions.
Cheat grass is almost as flammable as gasoline....once
a stand of it catches fire it can burn at the rate of
20-30 feet per minute and more.

The Second Amendment protects the right to keep and bear
arms.....when, where and how those arms are used however
is not so protected. Laws banning the discharge of guns
inside city limits don’t violate our rights, so laws that
limiting target shooting under certain fire risk conditions
would be equally reasonable.

Keeping and bearing arms infringes on nobody elses rights....but when you start using those arms you
start running the risk of infringing on the rights of
others, and that’s where rights start mutating into
privilege.


6 posted on 06/24/2012 8:17:52 PM PDT by nvscanman
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To: nvscanman

This is a pile of crap and you know it.
Lightning, smokers and campers are more likely sources of wildfires. Hell, Jihadis are a more likely source of wild fire and that’s a vanishingly small source of wild fires.


11 posted on 06/24/2012 8:26:02 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: nvscanman

They’re talking mainly about a fire that started at a dump. I would imagine there might be all kinds of things at a dump that could start a fire. Shooters do need to take some precautions, but this sounds a little over the top to me.


17 posted on 06/24/2012 8:35:54 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: nvscanman
Laws banning the discharge of guns inside city limits don’t violate our rights,

Except they might in that the 2nd Amendment talks about a well-regulated militia, as in practiced. If you cannot discharge your weapon then you cannot practice and therefore cannot be 'well-practiced'.

Furthermore, such non-discharge laws may well be immoral. Consider such a law that considered any [non-police] gun discharge to be illegal: any self-defensive use of such a weapon would be, by definition, against the law. (Granted, most such ordinances would not take such a stance, but I do not doubt that the law-crafters may be mistaken, or the bureaucrats malicious.)

44 posted on 06/24/2012 10:56:35 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: nvscanman

Hush Noobe.............you know not.


47 posted on 06/24/2012 11:36:38 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (That Kenyan, muzzy bastard is not my president. ENFORCE the Bill of Rights.)
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To: nvscanman

Very imaginative for its lack of reality against possibility, probability and number of gunshot caused fires ratio to total fires.

I’m thinking at best 1 in a million and you have shot near as much me and understand how hard it really is to catch grass, much less, cheat grass on fire then the odds are nearly nil.


49 posted on 06/25/2012 12:08:59 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live thnrough it anyway)
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To: nvscanman

“Go shooting at night in the rocky desert sometime....”

Who the hell goes shooting at night? That’s just plain stupid.


54 posted on 06/25/2012 2:25:39 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: nvscanman

I respectfully disagree with you. Unless one is firing non-standard rounds, i.e. steel jacketed, steel cored, or other military round, which is of absolutely no use to a hunter or sportsman, it is literally impossible to strike a spark with either copper or lead.


56 posted on 06/25/2012 3:36:02 AM PDT by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: nvscanman

Lead hitting rocks does not create sparks. Neither does copper.
I suppose if you broke a rock with a rifle round the process of it fracturing and grating against the other half could create a spark.
It is much more likely that shooting aerosol cans, or tannerite or other types of ‘fun’ would create the necessary heat to catch dry grass on fire.


67 posted on 06/25/2012 7:05:42 AM PDT by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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