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Supreme Court Upholds Key Part of Arizona Law
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 06/25/12 | Jess Bravin

Posted on 06/25/2012 7:50:07 AM PDT by TonyInOhio

The Supreme Court upheld a key part of Arizona's tough immigration law but struck down others as intrusions on federal sovereignty, in a ruling that gave both sides something to cheer in advance of November elections where immigration is a major issue.

The court backed a section of the Arizona state law that calls for police to check the immigration status of people they stop.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizona; fastandfurious; immigration; ruling; scotus
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To: chessplayer

Which does have to make you wonder what in the world John Roberts was smoking at the time.

How in the world can you find a state enforcing federal law to be contrary to that law just because a current executive doesn’t feel like enforcing it?


61 posted on 06/25/2012 8:52:54 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Will88
The essence of the ruling comes down to one sentence :

“As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain in the United States.”

62 posted on 06/25/2012 8:56:06 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (A conservative can't please a liberal unless he jumps in front of a bus or off of a cliff)
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To: ontap

“Once again the liberal jurist always vote the liberal agenda first while conservative jurist do not. “

There are lots of libertarians who are pro-illegal. WSJ editorials are fun to read except for when they bring up this issue.


63 posted on 06/25/2012 8:59:11 AM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: netmilsmom

The left is already screaming “racist”,


Just shows how embedded playing the skin color card is in their thinking. It’s become totally automatic. Even when they get what they want, the first thing they say is “racist!”


64 posted on 06/25/2012 9:00:42 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: joe fonebone

“arizona exceeded it’s authority by trying to pass it’s own immigration laws...”

That’s right. You immigrate to the US, not Arizona.


65 posted on 06/25/2012 9:02:31 AM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: sten; P-Marlowe
so a federal court upheld federal power?

I don't think so. I think they firmly supported some imagined power of the executive to ignore the law despite the constitution saying that the executive is to enforce the law of the land.

Arizona was "in trouble" for enforcing federal law in contravention of the executive's decision to ignore the law with forbids what we call illegal immigration. An executive who is allowed to ignore the law is call a despot, I believe.

This should be called the "Despotism Empowerment Decision" in the future.

They will go full circle when they get a ruling that supports a despot making up his own law. He can now ignore enforcing law, and in the future create law on whim. Sounds like old Rome to me.

66 posted on 06/25/2012 9:03:40 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: newnhdad

>>I wouldn’t put too much stock on what the extreme left says<<

I’m not. But it’s fun to watch.


67 posted on 06/25/2012 9:04:51 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: workerbee
“As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain in the United States.”

Where is that quote from?

I think, as a general rule, it is a crime for an illegal alien to be in the US, but it has been many years since we had a president and administration who intended to enforce existing immigration law.

68 posted on 06/25/2012 9:05:53 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88

I didn’t quote that. My post was #57.

If the executive can just decide not to enforce a law, the states (and its citizenry) are simply forced to take it?


69 posted on 06/25/2012 9:44:02 AM PDT by workerbee (We're not scared, Maobama -- we're pissed off!)
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To: kevao

“Second, had the ruling gone the other way, the individual states would have been able to create their own unique immigration laws. Would you *really* want that? Can you imagine the immigration policy of states like California or Massachusetts?”

You are correct. This opinion paves the way for the feds to take action against “sanctuary cities.” Getting the feds to do that places the obligation right back where it ought to be; as a political issue and changing the people running the show in DC.


70 posted on 06/25/2012 9:46:21 AM PDT by henkster (Why should I care? Why should I care?)
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To: henkster
This opinion paves the way for the feds to take action against “sanctuary cities.”

Must we wait for the Feds to take action? That might be a long wait depending on who's in power. Can't someone bring suit now against a sanctuary city based on this ruling?

71 posted on 06/25/2012 9:50:44 AM PDT by kevao
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To: Williams

Here’s a plan:

Round-up illegals in those states whose state and federal reps. vote for more restrictive policies on illegals, securing the borders, etc. and send them to states whose reps vote for less border control, amnesty for illegals,etc.

And let’s not forget the home states of the members of the federal courts who come down AGAINST preserving our vanishing national character.

These clowns think it’s such a swell idea, let THEM live with these folks.

As cheap as I am, I’d even donate to such an effort.


72 posted on 06/25/2012 9:52:33 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (NOVEMBER 6th: THE END OF AN ERROR! Let us pray it's not the start of another!*)
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To: ari-freedom

But its AZ (or whichever state) that gets the shaft.


73 posted on 06/25/2012 9:54:41 AM PDT by workerbee (We're not scared, Maobama -- we're pissed off!)
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To: Will88

The first order of business for rino romney ( and I want this commitment NOW)( is to criminalize illegals being here. Once we get that done then we are back in business.


74 posted on 06/25/2012 10:00:21 AM PDT by marygonzo
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To: marygonzo

Romney won’t say anything to decrease that 25% Hispanic support.


75 posted on 06/25/2012 10:07:53 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: netmilsmom
The kenyan retained and a Republican Senate(preferabbly +60) and a Republican House is the only way I see to slow the deterioration and the march to Statism with the current political situation, assuming the Republicans would actually act as an Opposition. I am not too optimistic even on that score. They will certainly not reverse even some of the things that must be reversed in order to stem the totalitarian progression. Romney with a Republican Congress just puts a different man at the helm of the Socialist Enterprise and the speed with which that train comes down the track will not even slow.
76 posted on 06/25/2012 10:25:14 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
"...but struck down the portion that required immigrants to carry their papers."

Which, if true, invalidates current federal law.

77 posted on 06/25/2012 10:34:30 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: workerbee
If the executive can just decide not to enforce a law, the states (and its citizenry) are simply forced to take it?

Apparently, and it's been that way at least since Reagan, and maybe before. It just reached critical mass during the past ten or fifteen years, and spilled in many states where illegals had scarcely been noticeable before.

The only remedy seems to be a president who will enforce the law.

But a previous Arizona law requiring the use of E-verify and allowing the revocation of business licenses from businesses that hire illegals was upheld by the Supreme Court in 2011. - So, Arizona has gained some tools for enforcement over the past couple of years.

(Those two posts sort of ran together and I replied to the wrong one on that quote.)

78 posted on 06/25/2012 10:39:57 AM PDT by Will88
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To: marygonzo
Once we get that done then we are back in business.

Yep, the solution to the problem is a president who will enforce immigration law, but it's been quite a while since any president did. I don't even know the last one who did, certainly neither Bush nor Clinton.

79 posted on 06/25/2012 10:44:26 AM PDT by Will88
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To: TonyInOhio
The justice also noted that "discretion in the enforcement of immigration law embraces immediate human concerns," and also "involve(s) policy choices that bear on this Nation's international relations." Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06/25/supreme-court-strikes-down-most-arizona-immigration-law-upholds-key-provision/#ixzz1ypKozynu

What the heck does any of that have to do with the CONSTITUTIONALITY of those provisions?

80 posted on 06/25/2012 10:47:47 AM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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