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Is Fast and Furious Obama's Watergate?
Impeach Obama Campaign ^ | June 23, 2012 | Kris Zane

Posted on 06/25/2012 8:30:55 AM PDT by pistolpackinpapa

Operation Fast and Furious has been painted as a rogue program out of the ATF Phoenix Office, with no orchestration at the Department of Justice or White House. When it was revealed that Eric Holder had received memos discussing Fast and Furious, Holder denied reading them. When wiretap applications discussing Fast and Furious approved by the DOJ were revealed, Holder stated DOJ officials only read summary sheets that did not include any mention of Fast and Furious details. When Darrell Issa, spearheading the investigation, subpoenaed 80,000 documents relating to Fast and Furious, Holder refused to comply because of “ongoing investigations,” providing less than ten percent of the documents (most of which were redacted.) Holder’s claim of “ongoing investigations” was an obvious stonewalling technique that he has used many times in the past, including during the Clinton Administration. With a Contempt of Congress vote looming against Eric Holder, Obama threw down the gauntlet, asserting Executive Privilege regarding the subpoenaed documents. This was obviously an eleventh hour ruse, bringing to the fore the belief (as most have asserted all along) that Fast and Furious was an Obama Administration program, not (as asserted) an operation conducted by a handful of rogue ATF agents. Regardless, the Obama Administration is now in attack mode with the House Oversight Committee voting to place Eric Holder in contempt of Congress.

As commentators have indicated, the President can’t have it both ways. He stated unequivocally that he had no knowledge of Fast and Furious, but Executive Privilege specifically only covers communications between the President or one of his close advisers with another party (and cannot, as Nixon tried to assert, cover anything he desires.) That Obama would issue this right to cover tens of thousands of documents is ludicrous. Per the Congressional Oversight Manual, Executive Privilege covers communication by or surrounding the President: “The communication must be authored or ‘solicited and received’ by a close White House advisor (or the President). The judicial test is that an advisor must be in ‘operational proximity’ with the President. This effectively means that the scope of the presidential communications privilege extends only to the boundaries of the White House and the Executive Office complex” (51).

Ironically, Executive Privilege cannot be used unless Obama was involved in Fast and Furious. And if he was involved in Fast and Furious, then Obama was involved in sending hundreds of guns to Mexican drug cartels. If Obama was involved in facilitating the murders of hundreds of Mexican citizens, and at least one American citizen—Border Patrol agent Brian Terry—this would necessitate immediate impeachment. Of course, most Americans know that Fast and Furious was an Obama Administration-orchestrated program in order to substantiate Obama’s wild claim in March of 2009 (parroted by Holder, Napolitano, and Hillary Clinton) that 90% of weapons used by Mexican drug cartels in violent crime come from U.S. gun dealers. To demonize U.S. gun dealers by first encouraging them to sell to Mexican drug cartel straw buyers, and then to blame them for doing so. To ramp up gun laws. To curtail and eventually void the Second Amendment. To literally countermand the highest law in the land! This is Obama’s Watergate, and the American people will not rest until this man is removed from power.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: watergate
Does anyone think that the Pubbies, in the House of Representatives, will have the tenacity, and the 'nads, to ride this horse to the Finish Line?
1 posted on 06/25/2012 8:31:01 AM PDT by pistolpackinpapa
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To: pistolpackinpapa

Obama lied; people died.

Holder lied; people died.

Watergate was just a 2nd Class break-in. Nobody died. If the Republicans miss this opportunity to bring down Obama and/or Holder....... shame on all their houses.


2 posted on 06/25/2012 8:33:20 AM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

How many people were killed in Watergate, again?


3 posted on 06/25/2012 8:33:21 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: pistolpackinpapa

No, I dont’ think so.

Let’s hope this is not oblabla’s Watergate.... Watergate took until the second term to get Nixon. We can’t stand to wait that long.


4 posted on 06/25/2012 8:34:12 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (You've been screwed by your government.)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

We, the people for whom they work, need to see that they do.


5 posted on 06/25/2012 8:34:34 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Journalists first; then lawyers.)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

I was going to mention this. Not only did people die, but how many guns from the U.S. are now in the hands of hardened criminals in Mexico? How much killing has been done across the border with these guns now?


6 posted on 06/25/2012 8:36:12 AM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: pistolpackinpapa
No you have it around the wrong way

People died, Holder and Obama lied

7 posted on 06/25/2012 8:38:30 AM PDT by when the time is right
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To: pistolpackinpapa

While the Senate is still Democrat controlled, Obama and his administration will be able to get away with anything.......and I mean anything with impunity.


8 posted on 06/25/2012 8:40:29 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: pistolpackinpapa

Only if he gets re-elected and loses the senate. If if he keeps the senate it’ll just be a Monicagate-ish.


9 posted on 06/25/2012 8:40:41 AM PDT by Calusa (The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles. Quoth Bob Dylan.)
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To: pistolpackinpapa
Excellent Bill Whittle 7:01 minute video on F&F:

http://youtu.be/UFIpoL3jrfo

10 posted on 06/25/2012 8:46:55 AM PDT by Jerrybob (Truth -- the new hate speech.)
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To: pistolpackinpapa
Some one said thison another thread: Fast and furious is Watergate with toe tags.

Pretty much sums it up

11 posted on 06/25/2012 8:51:06 AM PDT by verga (Wintertime stinks, summertime is much nicer)
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To: pistolpackinpapa
What did he know ...
... when did he know it?

12 posted on 06/25/2012 8:57:57 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: pistolpackinpapa
The "Establishment Republicans" don't have the brains, the courage, or the guts to defend our Constitution.


13 posted on 06/25/2012 8:59:47 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: verga
Some one said this on another thread: Fast and furious is Watergate with toe tags.

That was a "tweet" from Iowahawk, I believe. Impressive as usual.

14 posted on 06/25/2012 9:00:24 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

Who will play the role of Sam Ervin in THIS Watergate?

Who’s going to be Judge Sirica?


15 posted on 06/25/2012 9:16:45 AM PDT by Walrus (Today's question: What is so attractive about defacing your body?)
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To: Calusa
Only if he gets re-elected and loses the senate.

This is the best possible scenario. With Romney we will have a continuation of liberal shlock with no way to control it. If we wil the Senate and impeach Obama or charge him with treason the demise of progressivism will be advanced substantially.

16 posted on 06/25/2012 9:19:29 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The day liberals grow up is the day tyranny ends.)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

No, because the media won’t do anything about it....with Nixon, they were just looking for anything to get him out, and lo and behold, here came Watergate.


17 posted on 06/25/2012 9:20:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: pistolpackinpapa
Watergate was all about John Dean
trying to recover
his Prostitute wife's
photos in the DNC.

18 posted on 06/25/2012 9:28:04 AM PDT by Uriíel-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: pistolpackinpapa
In a word, no. Roberts defection on the AZ law, doesn’t build confidence for Thursday. Scalia got it right, to no avail.

About that Coup d'état we had in 08, anyone worried yet? You should be.

19 posted on 06/25/2012 10:20:30 AM PDT by itsahoot (About that Coup d'état we had in 08, anyone worried yet?)
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To: itsahoot
In a word, no. Roberts defection on the AZ law, doesn’t build confidence for Thursday.

I am not to sure. Roberts owes Obozo for the B!TCH slap he gave the supremes in the SOU address. This would be the perfect opportunity.

20 posted on 06/25/2012 1:03:37 PM PDT by verga (Wintertime stinks, summertime is much nicer)
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To: Louis Foxwell
With Romney we will have a continuation of liberal shlock with no way to control it.

That's really scary, but I see your point. Don't know that I really want to go there -- total gridlock for four years -- then Hillary.

21 posted on 06/25/2012 2:44:57 PM PDT by Calusa (The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles. Quoth Bob Dylan.)
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