Skip to comments.Is Fast and Furious Obama's Watergate?
Posted on 06/25/2012 8:30:55 AM PDT by pistolpackinpapa
Operation Fast and Furious has been painted as a rogue program out of the ATF Phoenix Office, with no orchestration at the Department of Justice or White House. When it was revealed that Eric Holder had received memos discussing Fast and Furious, Holder denied reading them. When wiretap applications discussing Fast and Furious approved by the DOJ were revealed, Holder stated DOJ officials only read summary sheets that did not include any mention of Fast and Furious details. When Darrell Issa, spearheading the investigation, subpoenaed 80,000 documents relating to Fast and Furious, Holder refused to comply because of ongoing investigations, providing less than ten percent of the documents (most of which were redacted.) Holders claim of ongoing investigations was an obvious stonewalling technique that he has used many times in the past, including during the Clinton Administration. With a Contempt of Congress vote looming against Eric Holder, Obama threw down the gauntlet, asserting Executive Privilege regarding the subpoenaed documents. This was obviously an eleventh hour ruse, bringing to the fore the belief (as most have asserted all along) that Fast and Furious was an Obama Administration program, not (as asserted) an operation conducted by a handful of rogue ATF agents. Regardless, the Obama Administration is now in attack mode with the House Oversight Committee voting to place Eric Holder in contempt of Congress.
As commentators have indicated, the President cant have it both ways. He stated unequivocally that he had no knowledge of Fast and Furious, but Executive Privilege specifically only covers communications between the President or one of his close advisers with another party (and cannot, as Nixon tried to assert, cover anything he desires.) That Obama would issue this right to cover tens of thousands of documents is ludicrous. Per the Congressional Oversight Manual, Executive Privilege covers communication by or surrounding the President: The communication must be authored or solicited and received by a close White House advisor (or the President). The judicial test is that an advisor must be in operational proximity with the President. This effectively means that the scope of the presidential communications privilege extends only to the boundaries of the White House and the Executive Office complex (51).
Ironically, Executive Privilege cannot be used unless Obama was involved in Fast and Furious. And if he was involved in Fast and Furious, then Obama was involved in sending hundreds of guns to Mexican drug cartels. If Obama was involved in facilitating the murders of hundreds of Mexican citizens, and at least one American citizenBorder Patrol agent Brian Terrythis would necessitate immediate impeachment. Of course, most Americans know that Fast and Furious was an Obama Administration-orchestrated program in order to substantiate Obamas wild claim in March of 2009 (parroted by Holder, Napolitano, and Hillary Clinton) that 90% of weapons used by Mexican drug cartels in violent crime come from U.S. gun dealers. To demonize U.S. gun dealers by first encouraging them to sell to Mexican drug cartel straw buyers, and then to blame them for doing so. To ramp up gun laws. To curtail and eventually void the Second Amendment. To literally countermand the highest law in the land! This is Obamas Watergate, and the American people will not rest until this man is removed from power.
Obama lied; people died.
Holder lied; people died.
Watergate was just a 2nd Class break-in. Nobody died. If the Republicans miss this opportunity to bring down Obama and/or Holder....... shame on all their houses.
How many people were killed in Watergate, again?
No, I dont’ think so.
Let’s hope this is not oblabla’s Watergate.... Watergate took until the second term to get Nixon. We can’t stand to wait that long.
We, the people for whom they work, need to see that they do.
I was going to mention this. Not only did people die, but how many guns from the U.S. are now in the hands of hardened criminals in Mexico? How much killing has been done across the border with these guns now?
People died, Holder and Obama lied
While the Senate is still Democrat controlled, Obama and his administration will be able to get away with anything.......and I mean anything with impunity.
Only if he gets re-elected and loses the senate. If if he keeps the senate it’ll just be a Monicagate-ish.
Pretty much sums it up
That was a "tweet" from Iowahawk, I believe. Impressive as usual.
Who will play the role of Sam Ervin in THIS Watergate?
Who’s going to be Judge Sirica?
This is the best possible scenario. With Romney we will have a continuation of liberal shlock with no way to control it. If we wil the Senate and impeach Obama or charge him with treason the demise of progressivism will be advanced substantially.
No, because the media won’t do anything about it....with Nixon, they were just looking for anything to get him out, and lo and behold, here came Watergate.
Watergate was all about John Dean
trying to recover
his Prostitute wife's
photos in the DNC.
About that Coup d'état we had in 08, anyone worried yet? You should be.
I am not to sure. Roberts owes Obozo for the B!TCH slap he gave the supremes in the SOU address. This would be the perfect opportunity.
That's really scary, but I see your point. Don't know that I really want to go there -- total gridlock for four years -- then Hillary.