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1 posted on 06/26/2012 7:09:35 AM PDT by Qbert
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Citizens have more rights and less restrictions than law enforcement officials.

Why not just perform massive Citizens’ Arrests of ANYONE we damn well suspect of breaking our sacred Federal Immigration Laws?

What would Wyatt Earp do? ( WWWED )


2 posted on 06/26/2012 7:17:04 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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The analysis used by the USSC to arrive at its conclusions are more disturbing. For the most part the court advanced the notion of the federales having not just exclusive jurisdiction regarding the writing and passage of laws regarding immigration matters BUT also exclusive jurisdiction regarding enforcement.

Of course that's only really disturbing to someone who might actually want to get a handle on illegal alien infiltrators. Now, let's say you're just an old curmudgeon into trouble-making and you think you see a way where state and local governments can substantially reduce the costs of their own governments by relying on the arguments in this case.

I point to the issue of "exclusive jurisdiction" or "preemption". If the court can argue that any federally law totally pre-empts any state law governing the same material, then it is logical for a state to argue that any federal law that preempts a state law passes exclusive jurisdiction for enforcement to the federal government.

This next step in the line of thought is a tad difficult for some to get their minds around, but if all of that is so then we can look at these special federal laws with their special and possibly exclusive jurisdictions and begin to cut back police and emergency services support where those federal laws may be involved.

For example there's a federal law that protects federal employees, appointees and elected officials from murder and mayhem. Fortunately the Congressional Research Service already did this for us at: http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R41574.pdf

If you read through there the federales outlaw murder just like a state might outlaw murder!

A state, on the other hand, would probably not get away with passing a law that outlawed the murder of your ordinary citizen but otherwise excluded federal executives, but there it is ~ a list of federal laws some of which outlaw murdering federal executives but otherwise lend no protection whatsoever to your ordinary citizen!

Applying the logic in the Arizona case, it's pretty clear that NO STATE nor subdivision of a state has any business protecting any of these officials from murder, nor in identifying, capturing and bringing their murderers to court.

Let me tell you, if Obama were coming to town and your city didn't want to spend more on the cops than was already budgeted, it looks like it'd be well within their rights to just ignore his visit and treat him like an ordinary citizen ~ which would leave him to the mercy of his Secret Service detachment, and to local stop lights and other traffic signs.

If these laws had been applicable in the JFK assassination, the Dallas cops could have given the feds a salute and wished them good luck finding the killer, but, BTW, clean the street ~ we don't do that stuff for the feds.

3 posted on 06/26/2012 7:34:13 AM PDT by muawiyah
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http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view/20220626short_end_of_the_stump_obama_leaves_hub_on_hook_for_fundraising_stop/srvc=home&position=0 ~ things like this ~ Democrats take Obama to Boston and run up a $200,000 tab for extra cops. Under the exclusive jurisdiction and enforcement doctrine enunciated by the USSC yesterday, Boston would not need to put a cop on the street, or try to make a deal for reimbursement. Obama would show up; take his chances with his otherwise quite limited Secret Service resources; and then go away ~ to an airport where he would not get any extra security beyond what any normal passenger would get.


4 posted on 06/26/2012 8:30:30 AM PDT by muawiyah
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One of the more informative articles so far this morning regarding yesterday's decision.

Ping!

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related threads.

5 posted on 06/26/2012 9:51:12 AM PDT by HiJinx (He who controls the water, controls life.)
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Thanks for the post ! That makes me feel better.


6 posted on 06/26/2012 2:03:37 PM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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