Skip to comments.Turkey dubs Syria 'a clear threat', vows to retaliate
Posted on 06/26/2012 8:32:58 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
Turkey dubs Syria 'a clear threat', vows to retaliate AFPAFP 3 hrs ago
Turkey branded its former ally Syria "a clear and imminent threat," on Tuesday as its Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan vented his fury over the downing of a Turkish fighter jet.
In his most outspoken criticism of the Damascus regime, Erdogan vowed to retaliate against the "heinous act" and promised a change of military attitude to any Syrian officer approaching the common border.
"The rules of engagement of the Turkish Armed Forces have changed given this new development," Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan told parliament following the shooting down of F-4 Phantom jet Friday. The two pilots are still missing.
Any risk posed by Syria on the Turkish border will be "considered a threat and treated as a military target," he said in a jam-packed room of lawmakers who frequently interrupted the address with applause.
Erdogan said his government would retaliate "with determination" and take what he called the "necessary steps by determining the time, place and method by itself".
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Russia doesn’t even border on Turkey anymore.
Dating myself a bit but I did a long undergrad paper on the defense of Turkey against Warsaw Pact attack; conclusion was that the Sovs even plus the Bulgarians & Romanians couldn’t possibly make any progress against the Turks without diverting forces from the Central Front in Germany, which would be obviously stupid.
Turkish military has modernized a lot since then. Russians couldn’t credibly touch the Turks militarily in any way, really, unless they wanted to nuke them.
Trouble is...both Turkey and Syria want to eliminate the Kurds.
Keep in mind that the Turkish government and the Turkish miltiary are two different things; the military is fanatically secular in a very deep rooted, top-to-bottom cultural way, and doesn’t instantly change just because the Turkish government has changed, or a few generals have been replaced.
Not through open warfare, but I can certainly see them providing some financial and other support in order to draw out any Turko-Syrian hostilities in order to make it more costly, both materially and politically, for Turkey. A weakened and less assertive Turkey is definitely in Russia’s core interests.
***Erdogan said his government would retaliate “with determination” and take what he called the “necessary steps by determining the time, place and method by itself”.***
You mean they won’t wait to get UN approval or worry about world opinion?
“...which side are we rooting for here?”
Both and neither.
Depth and length would be nice tho’.
Who’s that white boy? He doesn’t even have much of a tan.
A Syrian vs Turkey war could be the catalyst for a reuniting of the Kurdish Nation. This could be a good result but I doubt the Turks will do more than speak loudly unless they get Uncle Sugar or the Brits to backstop their little Turkish azzes.
So far Turkey is all talk
This is a major international cluster****. No one wins, eveyone loses, mostly all them dhimmi Jews and Christians who have lived there for thousands of years.
Damasacus is going to be a heap of rubble very soon Isaiah 17.
I’m rooting for Turkey invading and Syria using the Iraqi WMDs that the Sov, er, Russians smuggled into Syria on them. Much munching of popcorn on that one.
“...which side are we rooting for here?”
Not sure. Just sit back, watch the movie and eat some popcorn.
It's a triangle. We are rooting for the third side....Israel.
After action report:
June 22, 1140 hours, Syrian coastal radar detected two unidentified aircraft 6 km. west of the coast, inbound due east towards the coastal village of Raes al-Baseet. Aircraft speed was about 800 kmh, altitude was about 100 meters.
The aircraft were automatically radar locked on by a ZSU-23-4 Shilka, a 4 barrel, 23 mm auto-cannon, self-propelled, radar guided anti-aircraft vehicle.
At lock on, both aircraft turned northeast and descended off radar. At 2 kilometers downrange they ascended to 100 meters and were reacquired and locked on.
The ZSU-23-4 automatically engaged fire, striking one of the aircraft in the tail. The disabled aircraft then banked hard left and crashed about 6 km out, offshore the coastal city of Latakia.
At that low altitude it is unlikely that the pilots survived. Wreckage has been recovered and delivered to Turkey.
In my opinion, the mission intended to test the Syrian air defenses from the west of Syria.