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1 posted on 06/27/2012 7:42:16 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: ShadowAce

Simple.

Because they can. Now, back to work comrade!


2 posted on 06/27/2012 7:47:38 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: ShadowAce; Don_B; AuH2ORepublican
That is the main question that is being asked. I guess you need a legal expert on FR to answer that. However, given that Roberts is writing the opinion, is a good sign that law is probably being struckdown.
3 posted on 06/27/2012 7:47:55 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: ShadowAce

I think they will be looking for middle ground to half way appease everybody. I hope they rule the whole thing unconstitutional but would be surprized if they do.


4 posted on 06/27/2012 7:48:46 AM PDT by SWEETSUNNYSOUTH (Liberalism is a mental disease.)
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To: ShadowAce

learn to love ObamaCare ,it’s already doing whatever it does and it’s not going anywhere ,wait until they find the part that says Obama can be president for life


6 posted on 06/27/2012 7:59:47 AM PDT by molson209
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To: ShadowAce

Thank you for stating what I had originally thought was obvious! Seriously, if the Supremes smack down any portion of the law, the entire law is supposed to be toast based on the lack of a severability clause.

“Severability clauses are also commonly found in legislation, where they state that if some provisions of the law, or certain applications of those provisions, are found to be unconstitutional, the remaining provisions, or the remaining applications of those provisions, will, nonetheless, continue in force as law.”

This law had no severability clause, so if the individual mandate is struck down, the whole bill should die along with it.


10 posted on 06/27/2012 8:02:18 AM PDT by sdcraigo
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To: ShadowAce
If you think what he did after the SB1070 ruling raised eyebrows, just wait til you see what he does if ObamaCare is struck down. Even if the SC denies the mandate but leaves the rest in place, he'll make a confrontational move against the court as sure as tomorrow's Thursday.

Pass the popcorn

14 posted on 06/27/2012 8:13:44 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: ShadowAce

Our Constitution guarantees Americans the right of life yet Affordable Healthcare Law takes that away. Law should be struck down on this one, undebateable, issue alone.


15 posted on 06/27/2012 8:19:47 AM PDT by Boomer One
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To: ShadowAce
IMHO, the law will be struck down completely because the mandate can't be separated. Now we are hearing that some insurance companies will keep parts of the bill. The costs have been rising since Obamacare was passed to pay for keeping the kids on to 26 and pre existing conditions. None of the provisions in Obamacare would be impossible to keep, but the mandate would have been used to pay for it. As long as you volunteer to pay, you could have a custom package for yourself. The problem arises when you require everyone to have "your" deal.

What is desired is to lower everyone's costs to insure more people for less. Government meddling inevitably means higher costs for everyone with rationing to follow.

The only tried and true fix will include more competition, less money involved in lawsuits, and more individual control. When insurance companies have to compete for our business, they will have incentives for us to insure with them. Just as in the case of banks, when government gets out of banking, we have fees for everything and profits fall. When government gets out of banking, they advertise different benefits to attract you to their bank instead of somewhere else. If insurance had to compete for your business, then you would see more bennies for less money.

There are many options that could work, but why not pay an individual to buy insurance and allow him to keep whatever money he could save? The resulting wave of saving money would astound anyone paying attention. Just allowing people to shop around would save billions. Ask your doctor how much an upcoming procedure costs and see the turmoil that causes. They either don't know or don't care. When they quote a price, tell them you want to shop around and see the look on their face. The government doesn't care because the taxpayer pays and the insurance company doesn't care because you or your employer pays.

18 posted on 06/27/2012 8:23:57 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: ShadowAce

Why, after that abomination of a decision in the Arizona, anyone would expect Obamacare to be overturned is mystifying to me.


19 posted on 06/27/2012 8:24:01 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: ShadowAce
For two years they(democrats) inserted ‘outs’ to this thing call the ACA. Even if struck down, there are sufficient “laws leading to rulings” in place through the various other codified laws from the stimulus to the ACA, that make it simple for the regime to go after ‘single payer system’ post ACA being struck down.

If you follow any of that...then you realize the upcoming ruling...whatever it may be...is empty and meaningless. Striking it down will trigger a whole set of curacies to begin ‘ruling’ what they want.

20 posted on 06/27/2012 8:28:05 AM PDT by EBH (Obama took away your American Dreams and replaced them with "Dreams from My (his) Father".)
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To: ShadowAce; Bob Ireland; All

The Arizona Ruling by THE NINE SUPREMES (actually 8) has proven that we no longer have a US Constitution.

Hence, it is pointless to talk about a Court Dictate on Obama”care” being anything but a dictate of the polarized Court.

We also have a Rogue Dictator, and a Rogue Obama-Rifles Attorney General Leader.

Preference is not the issue. What the Court has already Dictated on Obama”care” will be the issue.

The further destruction of the US Constitution is the most probable dictate that the Court will hand down on Thursday, as this will be the last dictate of this past year, and hence they cowardly will release their worst dictate on their last day in session.

Since Obama”care” of ANY sort will financially destroy America, our options are limited to Congressional ABOLISHMENT of all of Obama”care,” or for we, the people, to begin the tedious process of convening peaceful State Constitutional Conventions, and splitting the former USA into multi-State Regions.

For almost 80 years we have been saddled with the failed Keynesian Economic System. It has bankrupted the US Federal Government.

The derivatives of the WW2 Wage and Price Control Dictates are as follows: Medicare, Medicaid, Romney”care” and Obama”care.”

All of these vote-buying gimmicks are funded by debt created by the failed Keynesian Economic System.

Currently this Debt is charged to those who cannot vote: our Grandchildren’s future descendants.

This Debt is the Federal Grandchildrens Tax, or FGT, to distinguish it from the FIT, or Federal Income Tax, which only 51 % of us are required to pay.

The Silent Majority is silent no more.

There will be additional calls for State Constitutional Conventions if the Republicans try to preserve or retain ANY of Obama or Romney”care.”

Obama”care” is the Death Knell for America. It must be ABOLISHED FOREVER if America is to survive.

If Obama”care” does survive, then I favor Regional Areas/Republics of the former United States of America. I think the States that the XL Pipeline will run through makes excellent sense for one Region, called The Texas Region. The Mississippi Region would be those States that the Mississippi River runs through. Pacific and Atlantic Regions are obvious, as are the Rocky Mountain States.

In this way people could vote with their feet and move to a greater or lesser degree of personal Liberty.

The Great Experiment of forcing the United States of America back into the European Feudal System began with FDR’s Social Security System and will end in failure with Obama”care.”

There is no need for armed conflict, as we have already tried that horrific method with our bloody Civil War.

Just peacefully hold State Constitutional Conventions, split up the former USA into multi State Regions, and then hold Fourth of July “Remember When Days” once a year, as we thank our lucky Stars that we in NO WAY are like Europe.

If we were a Nation of Laws, we could survive.

We, instead, have become a Nation of Lawyers, and thus survival is not possible.

Lawyers do not obey the laws, they just change their interpretation of the laws to suit themselves. For example, “Remember the Arizona Law!” would make an appropiate State Constitutional Convention poster.

During the State Constitutional Conventions and split up of the former USA, we need to designate a multi-State Region just for Lawyers. They could then Keynesian themselves to their hearts content.

The Region that I will choose will be based on “The Invisible Hand” of Samuel Adams’ Free Market, with NO safety net.

Think it over, as it will take years to complete all of the State Constitutional Conventions.

Thus, we have time to plan to do it RIGHT, (pun intended), and throw the Liberal cartons of useless Tea millstones back into the Sea of European Feudalism/Socialism that they so richly deserve.

We must design our Multi-State Regions/Republics so that the disaster of RINO-morphing, and creeping Keyneism does not occur again.

Without an effective Check and Balance System each Multi-State Region/Republic will not survive, as has been proven in the present USA by the efforts of RINO-Democrat-Liberal Agenda Media “Triangle of Doom” that we have today.

There is still hope if we can DUMP Romney by having the Delegates vote to ABSTAIN on the first Ballot in Tampa.

If Romney becomes the Nominee, Obama wins big in November, just like he did against Lame-Brain McCain in 2008, and it will be GAME ON Time for us FReepers here in the former USA.

BTW, I’m dusting off my Tri-Cornered Hat, will dig out my copies of The Federalists Papers, and for Patriotic Flair, may even make a few quill pens!

Let us build a more perfect Union! Long live the Second Republic of TEXAS!

____________

BTW, BTW, to the BIG BROTHER Lurkers: save your expensive Obamadrones for the continuous, and now SCOTUS-approved, invasion of the Mexican Drug Lords into Southern Arizona.

We will be no bother to you as we will be more peaceful, and more patriotically joyful than a GSA Convention in Las Vegas when we hold our many State Constitutional Conventions.

Y’all come by now, hear?


23 posted on 06/27/2012 8:36:52 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: ShadowAce
Those 26 or 27 states that sued better be ready for Obama’s retaliation Executive Orders.
25 posted on 06/27/2012 8:55:22 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: ShadowAce

Lack of severability should doom any document in its entirety.

However, we are talking about the government who uses convoluted reasoning to accomplish their ends no matter what.


30 posted on 06/27/2012 9:58:37 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live thnrough it anyway)
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