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Posted on 06/28/2012 7:29:13 AM PDT by for-q-clinton
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Is the SCOTUS secretly guaranteed to have personal choice of health care and doctors and not for us serfs?
America is not worth fighting for, any more.
Newt was right about these judges
How exactly do you think that electing Romney is going to change Obamacare? You do know that a form of Obamacare was originally authored by Romney, don't you?
Anyone who has health care with an employer just lost it today. Your employer will pay the fine and you will be dumped into the health care pool. Your salary will go up little to none, but your taxes will go up big time to pay for all the deadbeats. The hard working poeple just lost big time! I just hope the unions also are subject to be dumped in the pool with the rest of us!
Color me shocked and pleasantly surprised.
Can’t wait to see Romney argue against ACA now, since it was based on the Mass law. His only fig leaf was the constitutionality. Now that that’s been striped away, he’ll look like John Kerry; he was for it before he was against it!
How did Nancy Pelosi know the ruling? She needs to be investigated. Kagan should never have voted.
Public demonstrations are one thing but the real action from this point on is identifying who will vote for the GOP and getting those votes cast. This is a turnout election and we need to get every single freedom-loving American to cast a ballot. GET OUT THE VOTE! That is the name of the game for the next four months!
Congress can now apparently pass taxes while never having to admit they are taxes but the courts will uphold them anyway. A real Pandora’s Box was opened here.
Like most Tea Partiers, I have not and will not send money, make calls, post signs for Romney.
If however Romney is smart and wants to win, he will tap into the outrage that this will bring and make this at least his second campaign issue.
Agree fully ... Sad day.
I think how they slipped around that is ... the mandate is not a tax, but the PENALTY if you don’t follow the mandate is a tax.
Extremely shaky reasoning IMO. If you follow this logic, then legal penalties of any sort are a ‘tax’. So taxes are penalties ... penalties for making a certain amount of money.
While you're busy preening others of us are figuring out how to save our country.
If it walks and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
Obviously you did not see the Ginsberg interview. I knew this was coming and everyone else should have, she gave the signal to all the dems.
Like father like son: The first Bush gave us Souter; the second Bush gave us Roberts. The gifts that keep on giving The nextr failure of conservatism will occur when all these so-called Republicans will abandon their pledge to repeal Obamacare. It won’t happen EVER even if the GOP takes control of the House, Senate, and POTUS.
If George Washington was here, he'd either muster troops for another revolution, or seeing the vast tech superiority possessed by the tyrants, find another country to settle.
Yes, it shows Obama lied, and not only implemented the largest tax increase in history but also one that by design soaks people with incomes substantially below his promised $200,000 income floor.
This ruling also clearly indicates that the court, with near unanimity, sees limitations on the application of the Commerce Clause. This opens the door to a lot of other constitutional challenges.
Finally, I’d expect a new challenge based on the 14th Amendment’s Equal Protections clause, since the Obama Healthcare Tax must be applied in a decidedly disperate manner.
OBAMA’S HEALTH-CARE OVERHAUL UPHELD BY U.S. SUPREME COURT
5-4 decisions, with Roberts joining the court’s liberals.
Court says federal government cant threaten to withhold money from states that dont fully comply on Medicaid extension
CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS SAYS MANDATE IS NOT A VALID EXERCISE OF CONGRESS’ POWER UNDER COMMERCE CLAUSE AND NECESSARY AND PROPER CLAUSE
HEALTH LAW’S MEDICAID EXPANSION LIMITED BY U.S. SUPREME COURT -RTRS
ROBERTS, JOINED BY TWO JUSTICES, SAYS MEDICAID EXPANSION VIOLATES CONSTITUTION -RTRS
FOUR JUSTICES DISSENT, SAYING THE PATIENT PROTECTION AND AFFORDABLE CARE ACT GOES BEYOND -RTRSCONGRESSIONAL POWERS UNDER CONSTITUTION -RTRS
ScotusBlog conclusion: So the mandate is constitutional
The bottom line: the entire ACA is upheld, with the exception that the federal government’s power to terminate states’ Medicaid funds is narrowly read
The ACA is upheld as a tax, not a penalty
so...will THIS be the final kick in the @$$ the sleeping drunk needs?????
we the people: the original signers @ the con-con...(politicians)
wee the sheeple: as 0’pinhead refers to us...
Re: This proves people have lost control over their government. Its all in the hands of power players
Leahy is quoted as saying “no one questions our authority”
Heh, so it turns out Roberts is the same kind of Democrat faggot as Souter.
Oh well... guess Congress will actually have to do something.
My observation is that most tea partiers are less stupid than you.
They didn’t say the mandate was a tax, they said the penalty for following the mandate is a tax. Slippery way around.
If it is a tax, than the court cannot make a ruling on the Constitutionality of the tax (because of the Anti-Injunction Act) until the tax is actually imposed in 2014.
Since Obamacare is now considered a tax, and if it remains on the books until 2014, I would presume that the issue of a mandated purchase can be re-addressed once someone actually has to pay out any money (as a tax) to forego insurance.
It will be harder to unravel this mess by then, but the court challenges are not over.
John Roberts will go down in infamy as forever tied to the likes of Elena Kagan, Sotomayer, Ginsburg and Breyer.
Mary, Mother of God, pray for us.
Justice Roberts - the new boogieman for the Tea Party. Haha, I can see the signs now.
There’s more to this story (IMO) on why Roberts is voting the way he is........wonder if we’ll ever know what it is.
Meanwhile, if we want this bill repealed, we know what we have to do this November (and leading up to it).
The America I was promised as a kid was just revoked. The America my father fought for was just destroyed.
Quitting is for Frenchmen.
Americans fight for freedom.
Stop being a coward already.
A prayer you are wrong Laz, though am thinking you are correct. The battle up the hill for Patriots will become fraught with more danger (imho). Fate certainly has a fickle finger.
I also believe that this will doom Obamas re-election in November but I'm hardly sanguine about a 'President Romney' and a Republican congress repealing the monstrosity that is 'Obamacare'. However, I'll still vote Republican and hope for the best while, realistically, expecting much less.
As for John Roberts, I refuse to hate another person but right now, I sure do dislike the man and think he's sold out America with his deciding vote that upheld Obamacare. Shame on him.
Yeah, elections do have consequences. Did you vote for Bush? I did. Look what it got us. It’s like this, Bush, a REPUBLICAN, nominated Roberts.
I’m not real sure what this whole decision means in the long run since IANAL, but I’m not real confident. If there are openings in the decision that allow Congress to gut it or not. So, although I’m extremely disappointed in SCOTUS for not just stomping this into oblivion and throwing into the ashpile of history, I’m going through a gut check, I’m not giving up.
0bama and the rats played public opinion like a fiddle. Acting all pissed off and indignant, “threatening” the SCOTUS, etc., etc. Kabuki theatre. The joke was on us. The sadistic bastards knew all along what they were doing. Messing with our minds that we were going to “win” this one. And now look at us.
Those socialists in Washington D.C. and Crawford TX are laughing their asses off at us right now. Probably toasting our misery.
Romney, a REPUBLICAN (not a conservative) is a proponent of exactly this type of legislation, even secured its passage in MA.
0bama claims, and there is a lot of proof to support his claim, that this whole $hit sandwich was modeled after Romney’s version.
What, exactly do you propose as an alternative? Do you honestly think Romney, if he wins, is going to promote the repeal of this abomination to freedom?
Screw the presidency, those 2 pieces of garbage running for president are mirror images of each other from an ideological perspective.
The Congress is where the real power lies, take it back from those bastards and we can get real CONSERVATIVES working to get this thing repealed.
I’m so upset I can’t stop crying!! MY GOD WE NEED A revolution to stop the madness!!!!! Please someone out there make this STOP!!!
Why not fly it at half-staff? The whole country should do it and all Americans can display their displeasure...
If Kagan had recused herself, the vote would have been 4-4 which means the law would have been upheld. Recusal still should have applied on principle.
The handwriting was on the wall when the Arizona immigration case decision came down. The ACA law will never be repealed, it is a stepping stone to single payor. Follow the money, always follow the money.
**BETRAYED BY ROBERTS!**
Roberts was intimidated and he was looking for a way out. Calling it TAX was his way out and to shield/protect himself. He is a coward by nature and the rats have understood how to cow him.
"Hey Justice John, Nancy is really great in bed isn't she, and her pictures of you in bed with her are ready to go on You Tube if you don't vote for us!"
I hung my Gadsden flag right now.
worth repeating over and over!
If you agree, bump to the top!
Nine people voted today.
In November scores of millions of people will vote.
Patriots will not give up.
The one and only way to stop this is at the ballot box.
Up and down the ballot.
And then we take it from there.
A good idea to express displeasure today and everyday to follow. Will pray I will not be off to the reeducation camp, while I follow through by lowering to half-staff.
Chief Justice Roberts is a traitor to the US Constitution, as are the other 4 who voted to uphold this mandate (IMO, of course).
What will Romney say about this? He needs to fan the flames at this point to take our country back, starting with the executive and congressional branches.
A coward? Was Jefferson a coward? Was Washington a coward? All our founding fathers were not cowards. They faced an out of control gov’t in England and fought to leave it.
The America I was promised as a kid was just revoked. The America my father fought for was just destroyed.
We should push for a mandate that all adults must own a gun.
A vote for anyone but Romney in November is a vote for Obama and you know it. I pray you are not in a “swing state,” newbie.