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Ginsburg opinion cites (Mitt's) Massachusetts law
Politico ^ | June 28, 2012 | Alexander Burns

Posted on 06/28/2012 9:10:36 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

With all eyes on the individual mandate Thursday, Mitt Romney got a shout-out from Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg in her opinion on the Affordable Care Act.

Writing on the subject of providing affordable insurance to those with preexisting conditions, Ginsburg noted that Massachusetts “cracked [the] adverse selection problem.” and highlighted briefs explaining “the success of Massachusetts’ reforms.”

Under the Massachusetts health system, most residents were required to buy insurance so that insurance companies wouldn’t be left only with sick customers – and thus skyrocketing premiums.

“As a result, federal lawmakers observed, Massachusetts succeeded where other States had failed,” Ginsburg wrote.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: countryscrewed; obamacare; romneycare; romneycare4ever; romneycare4u; romneydeathpanels
Ginsburg hands Obama a winning campaign slogan.
1 posted on 06/28/2012 9:10:38 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
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To: greyfoxx39

I don’t see any way for Romney to campaign against this decision. It is his brainchild which John Roberts has just baptized.


2 posted on 06/28/2012 9:12:08 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: greyfoxx39

In what world are sky-rocketing premiums considered a SUCCESS???


3 posted on 06/28/2012 9:12:53 AM PDT by nodumbblonde ("The ladder of success is best climbed by stepping on the rungs of opportunity." - Ayn Rand)
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To: nodumbblonde

In a world where the Political Class wants a Single Payer Health Care System with them in charge of strangling this countries economy to death.


4 posted on 06/28/2012 9:14:36 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Repeal or Revolt-The only choices now.)
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To: madprof98

Yep, the GOP-E, true to form, demanded and got the worst possible candidate to stand up to Obama and Roberts on this decision.


5 posted on 06/28/2012 9:14:56 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: greyfoxx39

This part has always fascinated me. Everyone pays so the insurance companies don’t end up with the entire bill. I think this means the insurance companie’s profits will be set by the government. I guess they supported it because they knew that was the only way they could survive.

But for now, buy Aetna!


6 posted on 06/28/2012 9:16:45 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Ginsburg is a lying, politicizing old B%$@*!!!

The Federeal Government doesn’t follow State Consitutional Law or America would more closely resemble New jersey - politically.

She knew very much what she was doing when she did this.

She should be impeached for politicizing from the bench.
If the GOP had any testicles they would do just that.


7 posted on 06/28/2012 9:16:49 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: madprof98
I don’t see any way for Romney to campaign against this decision. It is his brainchild which John Roberts has just baptized.

The GOP-E Romney supporters had plenty of warning about this being used against Romney. They chose to ignore it and instead keep shoving him down our throats.

8 posted on 06/28/2012 9:16:52 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: madprof98
Romney hopes Americans grasp at straws and vote for the guy who says he'll reverse it, regardless of what he did in Mass.

&%$ damn the GOP, I'll be one of them.

9 posted on 06/28/2012 9:18:31 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: greyfoxx39

Politico is trying to turn the electorate against Romney because they know this tax will all but destroy obama. Looks like at least one freeper fell for their ploy.


10 posted on 06/28/2012 9:20:07 AM PDT by Ben Mugged ("Life's tough..... It's even tougher if you're stupid." John Wayne)
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To: ZULU
If the GOP had any testicles they would do just that.

If the GOP-E had any political savvy, they would have seen this coming. Obamacare has been taken off the table as a winning issue for Mitt. Ginsburg just made it history.

11 posted on 06/28/2012 9:20:54 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: nodumbblonde
In what world are sky-rocketing premiums considered a SUCCESS???

And decreasing coverage. I buy health insurance, as mandated, yet when I get my prescriptions, I pay cash because they are not covered. When I go to the doctor, I get a bill a month later because the visit isn't covered.

But a rapidly increasing number of residents pay nothing, not even premiums, because the state covers it all for them. They are "low income", so it's said.
12 posted on 06/28/2012 9:22:42 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: ZULU
So far, you are the only one on this thread who got that fundamental correct. SCOTUS does not cite state law to uphold the constitutionality of federal law.

Ginsberg just as easily could have cited UK or Canadian law for the same effect.

But such facts are inconvenient to the "We're screwed so let's start a civil war now" crowd.

13 posted on 06/28/2012 9:24:33 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: greyfoxx39
With all eyes on the individual mandate Thursday, Mitt Romney got a shout-out from Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg in her opinion on the Affordable Care Act.

Imagine that.

14 posted on 06/28/2012 9:24:56 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (not voting for the lesser of two evils)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

What a miserable candidate we have.


15 posted on 06/28/2012 9:29:35 AM PDT by marygonzo
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To: Vigilanteman

“Ginsberg just as easily could have cited UK or Canadian law for the same effect.”

And I think she and O’Connor have stated they have the authority to do just that, which should be impeachment talk.


16 posted on 06/28/2012 9:30:37 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: greyfoxx39
Obamacare has been taken off the table as a winning issue for Mitt. Ginsburg just made it history.

It would be if conservatives had an ounce of integrity. Instead they'll happily and knowingly lie to themselves to support the master.
17 posted on 06/28/2012 9:30:54 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: greyfoxx39

“Thank you, Willard, for helping the Legislature, the SCOTUS and me pass the Affordable Care Act.

High five, buddy”

Barak Obama, June 28, 2012


18 posted on 06/28/2012 9:31:46 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Vigilanteman

Isn’t politicizing from the bench an impeachable offense?


19 posted on 06/28/2012 9:34:49 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: LostInBayport

We’ve always had to buy our own insurance, too. We figured up awhile back that we’ve paid $100k in premiums and they’ve paid out $75. It makes a huge difference when you know you’ll end up paying for everything.

Meanwhile, my welfare-funded niece hauls her kid to the doctor every time he sniffles.


20 posted on 06/28/2012 9:48:22 AM PDT by nodumbblonde ("The ladder of success is best climbed by stepping on the rungs of opportunity." - Ayn Rand)
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To: Tennessee Nana

And don’t be surprised if Obama gives a “shout-out” to Romney, either.

If I were President Obama, and thank heavens I’m not, I would hold a presser and I’d say the following:

“Today is a momentous day, big victory, etc., etc. But more than anything, I’d like to thank Governor Romney for his inspiration in crafting the ACA; we used the plan passed by Governor Romney in _________ (I forgot what year it was), as the basis for the ACA. Again, thank you Governor Romney, for providing the light and the leadership on this vital issue, blah, blah, blah.”

That’s what I would say if I were the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. But then again, I’m kind of an SOB who loves to needle his opponents.


21 posted on 06/28/2012 9:49:34 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Bingo!!!


22 posted on 06/28/2012 10:06:57 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: greyfoxx39

Can’t wait until that nasty old crow steps down.


23 posted on 06/28/2012 10:08:08 AM PDT by bgill
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To: greyfoxx39

Real Conservatives always warned about Romney. They were right

Only a fool or a Democrat believes that Romney will actually undo ObamaCare if he is elected President. The Father of Socialized Medicine in the USA is not going to dump out his baby, even if Obama gave birth to it


24 posted on 06/28/2012 10:13:22 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (When I said "close the borders", I did not mean the bookstore chain)
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To: Tennessee Nana

“Thank you, Willard, for helping the Legislature, the SCOTUS and me pass the Affordable Care Act.

High five, buddy”

Barak Obama, June 28, 2012


You made me laugh and cry at the same time. You nailed it perfectly. Obama and his minions got ObamaCare handed to them on a SuperSized Happy Meal...it came with a special toy called Campaign 2012 Talking Points


25 posted on 06/28/2012 10:17:47 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (When I said "close the borders", I did not mean the bookstore chain)
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To: SeminoleCounty; Jim Robinson
"As president, Mitt will nominate judges in the mold of Chief Justice Roberts and Justices Scalia, Thomas, and Alito. These justices hold dear what the great Chief Justice John Marshall called “the basis on which the whole American fabric has been erected”: a written Constitution, with real and determinate meaning."

From Mitt Romney's website.

Link

26 posted on 06/28/2012 11:02:41 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: greyfoxx39
Ginsburg hands Obama a winning campaign slogan.

Mitt Romney's got a more credible record on healthcare than I have? Not very pithy.

Romney argues the mandate was unconstitutional based on the commerce clause and the Court held that. That the Court swerved and adopted the "it's a tax" view is not Romney's problem. He wasn't arguing that but now he can use Obama's frequent statements it wasn't a tax against him in advertising.

27 posted on 06/28/2012 11:30:24 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: greyfoxx39

One wonders if Roberts will stay listed after today. If not, it’ll become a ‘news story’ and if so, it’ll annoy people who bother to notice.


28 posted on 06/28/2012 11:34:30 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: SeminoleCounty
The Father of Socialized Medicine in the USA is not going to dump out his baby, even if Obama gave birth to it

He's not the father of federal socialized medicine.

He gave Massachussetts what they wanted...the bluest of blue states was clamoring for the healthcare they got.

This should be done one a state-by-state basis. I see no reason to think Romney wants federally socialized medicine.

29 posted on 06/28/2012 11:41:15 AM PDT by what's up
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To: madprof98

That was done at the state level and didn’t affect the lives of 350 million people. The cost of this on a national scale will be in the trillions.


30 posted on 06/28/2012 11:44:09 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: what's up; jersey117
Thanks guys for your defense of RomneyCare, the model for obamaCare.

pssst pssst Romney had to run in a liberal state because he is a liberal.

31 posted on 06/28/2012 11:48:35 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw

What else do we have left? He’s the nominee. He said he will repeal it. Either we go with that or we lose our last hope.


32 posted on 06/28/2012 11:53:09 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: svcw
I didn't defend RomneyCare. I would hate it if it were passed in my State.

But if it's left to my state, my State will vote a similar program in because it's the bluest of the blue.

I don't like RomneyCare, but it's the right of any State to vote for it if they want.

Romney is for a state-by-state program. I am definitely in favor of that.

33 posted on 06/28/2012 12:16:49 PM PDT by what's up
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To: svcw
I didn't defend RomneyCare. I would hate it if it were passed in my State.

But if it's left to my state, my State will vote a similar program in because it's the bluest of the blue just like MA.

I don't like RomneyCare, but it's the right of any State to vote for any program they want.

Romney is for a state-by-state program. I am definitely in favor of that.

34 posted on 06/28/2012 12:22:18 PM PDT by what's up
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