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My view from inside the Court room – more good than bad in the Obamacare decision
Bearing Drift ^ | Thursday, June 28th, 2012 | Brian Schoeneman

Posted on 06/28/2012 1:11:02 PM PDT by DYngbld

I just got back from the Supreme Court. It was an interesting experience sitting in the Courtroom as the opinion in the Obamacare case was read. And, by now, if you’re like me, you’ve gotten37 million pre-written press releases from every elected official in Virginia and most nationally either celebrating the individual mandate’s survival, or decrying this as the darkest day in the union’s history.

The truth lies, as it usually does with Supreme Court decisions, somewhere in the middle. In my opinion, however, the bulk of the victory lays with those of us on the right.

While we may have lost the battle on the individual mandate itself, we won two arguably bigger, more long-term critical fights – the fight about the breadth of the federal government’s regulatory power under the commerce clause, and the fight about the use of the federal spending power to coerce states into doing the federal government’s bidding. Those are both huge issues for small government conservatives and we won both – even getting a large majority, 7-2, on the spending power issue.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obamacare
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1 posted on 06/28/2012 1:11:09 PM PDT by DYngbld
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To: DYngbld

Wake up, and smell the Obama Dictatorship.


2 posted on 06/28/2012 1:15:26 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: DYngbld
"Every Democrat who voted for the law is going to have to own the tax hiker label.In the end, this will be a quintessentially pyrrhic victory for the President."

Their votes for this need to become an albatross to them in re-election bids.

3 posted on 06/28/2012 1:17:29 PM PDT by n230099 ("When no one knows who is armed...everyone is.")
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To: DYngbld

limiting the Commerce Clause is a big deal.

We should never rely on a court to make laws or un-make bad ones, that’s the job of the legislature. In this case Justice Roberts did his job to evaluate the constitutionality, rather than acting as an activist. We hate that, right?


4 posted on 06/28/2012 1:18:29 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: DYngbld

The law was entirely unconstitutional and Roberts allowed it. There is nothing more to say. No amount of spin or BS forgives Roberts and the other 4 for not doing their jobs.

The court, including Roberts, have really nothing to do with the American people. The Supreme Court, like Congress and certainly like Obama sees the people they are supposed to be working for as their own property. Slaves.


5 posted on 06/28/2012 1:19:37 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: bigbob

They ruled right on some but not on the others? If it’s wrong, it’s wrong.


6 posted on 06/28/2012 1:20:54 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: bigbob

I agree limiting the commerce clause is a big deal. It is tougher to expand government if it takes a massive tax increase to fund it.

Still, overall, this was a terrible decision that further threatens the economic viability of this country. The country would have been far better off with Roberts making the correct ruling instead of this twisted “clever” ruling.


7 posted on 06/28/2012 1:21:25 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: DYngbld

The good news is we are now closer to the second revolution.

End this bullsh!t once and for all.


8 posted on 06/28/2012 1:21:25 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: n230099

Since when do rats run from tax-and-spend positions? They LOVE pandering to the non-taxpaying voters, promising them all kinds of “gimmees” in exchange for votes. They’ve just been talking about making the “rich” pay “their fair share”, I don’t see where they think taxes are a losing propostion


9 posted on 06/28/2012 1:21:52 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: bigbob

The law was not written or passed as a tax, therefore calling it one is an example of judicial activism. If the law had been written as a tax, it would have been defeated. Trying to paint a smiley face on this monstrous bill and the court’s upholding it is preposterous, even if you were “in the courtroom”.


10 posted on 06/28/2012 1:23:05 PM PDT by NotTallTex
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To: DYngbld

I don’t see how the Supreme Court changing the language of a bill to make it “constitutional” is a “good thing”. But okay.


11 posted on 06/28/2012 1:23:21 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Constitution?!)
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To: bigbob

He was in fact the poster boy for judicial activism here. He wrote that Congress should have defined it as a tax, so therefore it is a tax, so therefore it is the law of the land. Judicial activism right out of the Democratic playbook.


12 posted on 06/28/2012 1:24:33 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: DYngbld

Don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining.


13 posted on 06/28/2012 1:25:16 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

From Chief Justice Roberts decisio:.....
“Those decisions are entrusted to our Nation’s elected leaders, who can be thrown out of office if the people disagree with them. It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.”


.....Just ike our forefathers in the American Rovolution taxation has/will motive us again to replace the governmment. This time we can vote them out.

Get er done. Donate, work the phones, work locally to get “representation” of our own ideas: We need SIXTY Senators, the Presidency AND the House.


14 posted on 06/28/2012 1:25:22 PM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya.".. he's lying now or then?)
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To: bigbob

This did more than any decision in decades to expand the commerce clause. Roberts essentially said ‘just use taxation and the federal government can rightfully coerce anyone to do anything.’


15 posted on 06/28/2012 1:26:46 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: DYngbld

“it was a reaffirmation of the conservative principle that the federal government and our federal system has limits.”

Wow. It will take a long time to bring the American
republic back to life. A legal precedent to control
every individual through the taxing authority will
ripple through the system for years, decades or even
generations, if at all. Do justices reverse precedent?
Not anymore.

I see the blog article is hate speech./s In order to
discourage this hatred, I’m imposing a sin tax of an
additional 45% of your income./s


16 posted on 06/28/2012 1:27:37 PM PDT by WKTimpco (Traditional Values Counter Revolution)
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To: DYngbld

Brian, you ignorant slut.


17 posted on 06/28/2012 1:27:43 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

There is no way to polish the turd that Roberts delivered.

He will NEVER recover from this vote in terms of how i look at him and GWB.


18 posted on 06/28/2012 1:31:01 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: 9YearLurker
Roberts essentially said ‘just use taxation and the federal government can rightfully coerce anyone to do anything.’

No, that was being done long before this ruling.

Roberts called them out by rightly labelling it a tax.

19 posted on 06/28/2012 1:33:23 PM PDT by what's up
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To: unixfox
The good news is we are now closer to the second revolution.

I hope you mean a real one and not one lead by Romney and the Republicans.

20 posted on 06/28/2012 1:34:15 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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