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"Am I allowed to count the Bush tax cuts that were kept? Or do I have to cite new tax cuts like the reduction in SS witholding?"

Fair enough. And I will cite his massive spending increases which ended up increasing spending 5 dollars for every 1 dollar in taxes he cut. He also expanded medicare. All with a Pub House, Senate and Presidency.

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Which put us where we are--with Obama (and Obamacare).

You think Republicans don't realize how bad they f***** up, when we couldn't even get everyone on our side to support McCain over a Socialist?

And in 2010, did the Tea Party do an effective job taking them dems to the woodshed?

What is this ruling going to do with every Tea Party in the U.S.?

Roberts effectively said, it's the peoples' job to elect leaders who don't do things like this if we don't want them to, by making it a tax-and-spend issue.

He also made it more likely to accomplish repeal in the budget reconciliation process.