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Obamacare Waivers ? How can "Taxes" be waived by HHS and friends ?
Newsvine.com ^ | 6.28.12 | Jay Tee

Posted on 06/29/2012 1:39:20 PM PDT by tflabo

If the MANDATE in Obamacare only survives as a Tax, as ruled by the Supreme Court, how can anyone Waive Taxes with Obamacare Waivers ?

This and other questions still need to be answered, because we have Videos of Obama saying "This is not a Tax". ...

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: hhs; taxes; taxwaivers; waivers
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Excellent question. Does Obama even have Constitutional powers to rescind taxes as waivers? Isn't that only limited to Congress if ObamaCare is deemed a tax?
1 posted on 06/29/2012 1:39:27 PM PDT by tflabo
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To: tflabo

They’ll continue to refer to it as a penalty.

And dare Congress to stop them.


2 posted on 06/29/2012 1:41:32 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: tflabo; AuH2ORepublican

No he doesn’t.


3 posted on 06/29/2012 1:42:08 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: tflabo

If it’s a tax it must be collected as required by the Constitution and the law.

However neither get in the way of this administration so why would it stop them now?

We can run to the courts but we likely don’t have standing until the “tax” is collected. Plus I have lost all faith in our nations court system.


4 posted on 06/29/2012 1:42:33 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: tflabo

When ruled by a Dictator/King only HIS wishes count. The peasantry/proletariat can go to hell along with the laws they thought they rode in on.


5 posted on 06/29/2012 1:44:08 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: tflabo

Stop asking such silly questions.


6 posted on 06/29/2012 1:44:36 PM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: tflabo

It’s not a tax.

It’s a Bill of Attainder.


7 posted on 06/29/2012 1:44:54 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Anna Wintour makes Teresa Heinz Kerry look like Dolly Parton.)
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To: Perdogg
"No he doesn’t."

Which, as far as I can tell, won't stop him from doing whatever he wants, while the GOP sits on its thumbs.

8 posted on 06/29/2012 1:46:43 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Perdogg; tflabo
"No he doesn’t."

Actually in practice, they do it all the time now, don't they? I'm thinking of:


9 posted on 06/29/2012 1:47:04 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: tflabo

The same way tax dodging Democrats just say oops it was an accident or that darn tax software messed up and get away with it......The Media will only “expose” the Republicans or people they disagree with who fail to pay taxes.


10 posted on 06/29/2012 1:47:46 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: Bratch

Double edged sword. If it’s a tax, then it violates due process. If it’s a penalty, then it violates the basic rules of contracts. This is far from over.


11 posted on 06/29/2012 1:48:00 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: tflabo

I thought the waivers applied to the coverage amounts for employees, not the tax if an individual chooses not to carry insurance. Am I missing something?


12 posted on 06/29/2012 1:48:54 PM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: Don Corleone
"When ruled by a Dictator/King only HIS wishes count. The peasantry/proletariat can go to hell along with the laws they thought they rode in on."

Yes, he has more and bigger guns. He can dispense favors and penalties as he wishes. I bet any challenge to the waivers will go no where in the courts and will grind on for years, regardless. We must turn this devil out of office in November, assuming the peoples' vote still counts. That is somewhat in doubt because of Obama's mass legitimization of illegals and the plans for vote fraud on a never seen before scale. This November is for all the marbles.

13 posted on 06/29/2012 1:50:31 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: tflabo

Liberals have yet to realize that the mandate is out the window, and probably, the entire law as it never originated in the House. That said, there’s a zillion things left to litigate involving this monstrosity of a bill. Perhaps, though, we’ll be saved some of this by the House Republicans actually getting off their duffs and shutting down government until this tax bill is destroyed.


14 posted on 06/29/2012 1:51:13 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: tflabo

Tax or not, he never had waiver power anyway. I’d bet if Romney is elected and tries his “waivers to all 50 states” the dems will file suit.


15 posted on 06/29/2012 1:53:49 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: cableguymn; All

From another article may 2011.... see link below...

“If Congress cannot give the president a power to suspend part of a law, how can Congress give the president a power to dispense with part of it for only some Americans — a power that would be much more dangerous”?

http://www.westernfreepress.com/2011/03/11/do-obamacare-waivers-violate-equal-protection/


16 posted on 06/29/2012 1:55:03 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

Yeah, like the Rats want this to go before the USSC a second time, with new arguments about the “tax”?


17 posted on 06/29/2012 1:55:24 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: tflabo

Demon Rats do not want to throw stones in this glass house, unless they want to brown off all their special friends they have already waived the monster for.


18 posted on 06/29/2012 1:56:38 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: tflabo

Don’t worry, once those “taxes” are levied the lawsuits will be flying.


19 posted on 06/29/2012 1:56:38 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: tflabo

How can an illegal alien from Kenya be the de facto president?


20 posted on 06/29/2012 1:57:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father, GunnerySgt/Commo Chief, USMC 1943-65)
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