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To: marktwain

Why the hell do they need to pass a law to legalize the constitutional?

Personally I think we need to revisit the 1895 supreme court decision that jurors “Need not be informed” of their rights. I would further back it up by requiring that all students must demonstrate proficiency in juror rights and duties before graduating.


2 posted on 07/01/2012 6:48:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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THOMAS JEFFERSON (1789): I consider trial by jury as the only anchor ever yet imagined by man, by which a government can be held to the principles of its constitution.

JOHN ADAMS (1771): It’s not only ....(the juror’s) right, but his duty, in that case, to find the verdict according to his own best understanding, judgement, and conscience, though in direct opposition to the direction of the court.

ALEXANDER HAMILTON (1804): Jurors should acquit even against the judge’s instruction....”if exercising their judgement with discretion and honesty they have a clear conviction that the charge of the court is wrong.”

U.S. vs. DOUGHERTY (1972) [D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals]: The jury has....”unreviewable and irreversible power...to acquit in disregard of the instructions on the law given by the trial judge.”


4 posted on 07/01/2012 6:55:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
I would further back it up by requiring that all students must demonstrate proficiency in juror rights and duties before graduating.

...from government school.

Yep.

7 posted on 07/01/2012 7:11:54 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: cripplecreek
I would further back it up by requiring that all students must demonstrate proficiency in juror rights and duties before graduating.

Of course there are thousands of graduates who are unable to read. What about them?

14 posted on 07/01/2012 7:32:41 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: cripplecreek
Why the hell do they need to pass a law to legalize the constitutional?

To grant it as a modified, statutory privilege to 14th Amendment corporate individuals who have no access to Constitutional rights.

Why else?

17 posted on 07/01/2012 7:40:06 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: cripplecreek

Lawyers and Judges have long overstepped their bounds by curtailing and designating what a Grand Jury and Jury have the right to do. I think Grand Juries need to tell DA’s and Judges go F off more often and use their investigatory power. Where they are in disuse they need to be brought back and begin to curb the power of the Judiciary by investigating it.


24 posted on 07/01/2012 9:11:06 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: cripplecreek
Obamacare is all about solidifying the poor and lower middle class into a permanent voting block for the democrats

Amen! Only reason to define a right is to be able to change it. Common Sense, in the political class, died about 100 years ago.

30 posted on 07/02/2012 12:19:24 AM PDT by itsahoot (That Coup d'état we had in 08, It is now complete, with unlimited power.)
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To: cripplecreek
...would further back it up by requiring that all students must demonstrate proficiency in juror rights and duties before graduating.

We should all fear being tried by 12 people who were not smart enough to get out of jury duty! < /sarc >

33 posted on 07/02/2012 7:08:41 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of LibertyI'm st! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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