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N. Korea's Gentleman Scavengers Devouring Leftovers at Restaurants because...
JoongAng Ilbo ^ | 07/02/12

Posted on 07/01/2012 8:31:32 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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N. Korea's Gentleman Scavengers Devouring Leftovers at Restaurants because...

In N. Korea's restaurant districts, well-dressed 'gentleman scavengers' are popping up. Rations are not enough to cover their (basic) need and they make up the shortfall at restaurants.

According to 'Open Radio for N. Korea,' a female Pyongyang resident in her 50's conveyed, "To make up their need, rising number of people are getting their meals from leftovers at Pyongyang's restaurants."

In Pyongyang, only those at a household whose head has a job, get food rations, but it is not enough for family members to last for a month. These 'gentleman scavengers' can be found in Pyongyang's outskirts as well as downtown districts such as Daedonggang and Daesung Districts. Not only men but also women and children go from one restaurant to another, restaurants located near Pyongyang railway station and a park, as well as big ones such as Ok-ryu-kwan and Chong-ryu-kwan.

It is difficult to tell them apart because they are impeccably dressed. They pay great attention to their speech and behaviors because restaurant managers won't let in those not well-dressed or whose speech or behaviors look clumsy.

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(Excerpt) Read more at joongang.joinsmsn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: foodshortage; nkorea; pyongyang; scavengers

1 posted on 07/01/2012 8:31:41 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...

P!


2 posted on 07/01/2012 8:32:53 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows
In N. Korea's restaurant districts, well-dressed 'gentleman scavengers' are popping up.


3 posted on 07/01/2012 8:36:37 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

bump


4 posted on 07/01/2012 8:40:21 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Maybe the South Koreans can drop some stray dogs into NorK-land by parachute to stop this!


5 posted on 07/01/2012 8:47:45 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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6 posted on 07/01/2012 8:51:45 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: musicman

Brilliant


7 posted on 07/01/2012 9:13:59 PM PDT by SquarePants
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To: TigerLikesRooster

(slightly OT)

That’s not all NK is missing...

http://idolretouch.blogspot.com/

(safe for work, no need to worry)


8 posted on 07/01/2012 9:19:25 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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To: SquarePants

9 posted on 07/01/2012 9:19:39 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Yum, leftovers in Pyongyang.

If it’s that rough for the privileged in town, you can multiply the suffering out in the countryside.


10 posted on 07/01/2012 9:23:45 PM PDT by lurk
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To: lurk

Maybe they can cook Lady GaGa’s meat dress.....


11 posted on 07/01/2012 9:31:50 PM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: lurk
Thins are pretty thin in NK these days, despite above-average harvest last year. State took majority of it for military or supposedly big celebration this year. Farms took a beating, and rumors were coming out of NK this spring about famines in breadbasket area (SW N. Korea.) According to pieces of news coming out of NK, some emergency grain aid from China stopped it from getting worse. N. Korea is experiencing drought, but not as severe as their state media claims apparently. Still, it appears that every body’s ration has been cut. There are many others who were cut loose from ration system years ago. They learn to adapt on their own. In Pyongyang, they are just beginning to adapt. They had got their food supply from state. Still there are a wealthy and powerful small minorities who are doing even better, the well-connected inner circle. They make up the haven inside the haven called Pyongyang.
12 posted on 07/01/2012 9:52:47 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It’s like the immigration issue. Some people don’t want the issue resolved. In this case it’ the South.


13 posted on 07/01/2012 9:56:43 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It is very hard for us who never have faced starvation to know the depth of that problem in Chosen (North Korea). I have just finished a book titled THIS IS PARADISE, by Hyok Kang about his N.Korean childhood. Through out the book the lack of food, the starvation, and yes, the death by starvation are always in the forefront.
He and his family were lucky enough to escape through China, Cambodia, Vietnam, Thailand and finally into So. Korea.


14 posted on 07/01/2012 9:57:10 PM PDT by Islander2
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Why would they do that? More importantly why do you feel it necessary to insult the South Koreans?

For goodness sake, Americans eat opossum and crap in boxes that is half chemicals.


15 posted on 07/02/2012 3:37:09 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The elite are mostly likely selling a good portion of the aid to fund their lifestyle.


16 posted on 07/02/2012 3:40:46 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

The South wants reunification, just not on the terms available from those leading in NK.


17 posted on 07/02/2012 3:42:15 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

“. . Americans eat opossum and crap in boxes . . . “

Uh. SOME Americans eat ‘possum (but they’re pretty nasty critters - the ‘possums, not the Americans) - and none of them that I know of crap in boxes; neither Americans nor ‘possums. :o)


18 posted on 07/02/2012 3:47:45 AM PDT by Twinkie (Isaiah 53)
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To: Twinkie

lol ok its early, point is thats a tired old bit of ignorance that needs to go away.

heck our President has eaten more dog then the average Korean.


19 posted on 07/02/2012 3:54:08 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Hunger Games

a way of life continuing in this hell on earth insane protege nation of CHINA, that all the worlds’ nations accept as a diplomatic equal


20 posted on 07/02/2012 4:01:39 AM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: driftdiver

As a humanitarian gesture to help out the NorKs. How am I insulting the South Koreans? They eat dog all the time.


21 posted on 07/02/2012 4:43:42 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: driftdiver

“Americans eat opossum and crap in boxes that is half chemicals”

HEY! I like crap in boxes.


22 posted on 07/02/2012 4:56:15 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“How am I insulting the South Koreans? They eat dog all the time.”

Dog is rarely eaten by South Koreans. About as often and popular as opossum is in the US.


23 posted on 07/02/2012 5:07:44 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

“In South Korea (officially the Republic of Korea), dog meat is eaten nationwide and all year round, although it is most commonly eaten during summer.”

“According to the National Assembly of South Korea, more than 20,000 restaurants, including the 6484 registered restaurants, served soups made from dog meat in Korea in 1998.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat

How many restaurants around America serve opposum???


24 posted on 07/02/2012 5:39:13 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: driftdiver

In North Korea (officially the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea), in early 2010, the government included dog meat in its new list of one hundred fixed prices, setting a fixed price of 500 won per kilogram.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat

What price does the federal government fix opposum at??? The NorKs wouldn’t fix the price if it wasn’t a staple of the NorK diet.


25 posted on 07/02/2012 5:41:20 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

yeah what would I know, I’ve only lived there or several years and have family there.

you’re right once again


26 posted on 07/02/2012 5:44:30 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

opossum is simple one example of the garbage Americans eat. You can replace opossum with any one of the weird foods commonly found around here.

None of which has anything to do with the fact the North Korean govt is starving its people.

And you feel thats worthy of a joke. Says a lot about you.


27 posted on 07/02/2012 5:55:58 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

When the Olympics came to South Korea back in ‘88 why was the problem of eating dog all over the Western media? Were they trying to make a mountain out of a molehill at the behest of PETA?

And why did the South Korean government urge its citizens to stop eating dog and force the closure of restaurants serving it in order to avoid bad publicity?

Is it because up to 30% of South Koreans have eaten dog in their lifetime with a smaller percentage eating it regularly?

Then the whole matter was raised again in 2001 in the lead up to the 2002 FIFA World Cup in South Korea (and Japan). Brigitte Bardot lead the charge to boycott the games there unless the South Korean government banned the sale of dog meat in restaurants. Many South Koreans thought such a boycott was unfair and out of place.

It’s pretty obvious that the percentage of South Koreans who have eaten dog or eat it regularly is much higher than Americans who eat opposum.


28 posted on 07/02/2012 6:03:39 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Hey hundreds of thousands of people have starved to death in North Korea. Lets make jokes about it and focus on other countries. Yes thats a prudent thing to do.


29 posted on 07/02/2012 6:09:46 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

My original post was meant to be tongue-in-cheek but at the same time serious. Quit being so danged hypersensitive.

Sheesh...


30 posted on 07/02/2012 6:14:25 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; driftdiver
Maybe the South Koreans can drop some stray dogs into NorK-land by parachute to stop this!"

“How am I insulting the South Koreans? They eat dog all the time.”

South Corean’s dietary choices have little to do with your condescending attitude and remarks; you just used a part of it thinking that you are oh-so-funny and clever, ha ha. You forgot to mention that we also “bury kimchee in shit” in the ground for consumption during the winter, according to some “experts” of Coreans like you. (Never mind that there were no refrigerator and we put kimchee in big clay pots and put them in the ground to keep the food fresh.)

You are perched up high and belittle the Corean people and wrap them all in your ignorant blanket by insinuating that all of them eat dogs AND you make light of this grave situation of hunger up North by your first statement. It shows ZERO concern for the starving people up there, but your whole purpose of it was to just make fun of all Coreans, ya know, the inferior people to you, of course. That is obvious to anyone who has any common sense.

You asked HOW you are insulting the Coreans. If you have to ask.. Bless your heart!

driftdiver,

AN NYOUNG HA SE YO?

KAM SA HAM NI DA.

31 posted on 07/02/2012 6:37:51 AM PDT by Chong
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To: musicman

Can you edit that graphic? I’m sure “dog-eating” would fit in there someplace.


32 posted on 07/02/2012 7:54:11 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Islander2
I experienced this is Red China in the 1980s. Several peasants (ironically in Mao's own village of Shaoshan in Hunan Province at that), pointed, bantered on about something, and leered with eyes as huge as saucers as at us as we finished our pork on the bone and rice, almost eaten down the bone, staring through a paneless window opening out on the busy steet by way of a propped up wooden stick jammed in the windowframe, whereupon inside we were sitting on flimsy plastic chairs and making a very feeble attempt to consume our Chinese breakfast in peace but perhaps viewed and commented on by tens, then hundreds at least. Just about finished, and once we put those chopsticks down, stood up to pay, there was a hell of a racket over my left shoulder, I turned back to look and see three kids in their teens with dirty disheveled 華人民服 green peasant's closes and dirty faces, litterly jumping through that window and right onto the table, and they began pushing and shoving to get to our finishedc plates we had left, the lucky ones who elbowed the others away began to rapidly shovel as much of our leftover rice and pork strands from the bones as they could, from our own new found plates. My GOD these poor Chinese people under the terrible lie and source of communism, I thought, as I made my way out that restaurant and onto the main drag of Shaoshan Villeage near the bus station. Others were comically laughing as big-nosed foreigners were oddities in the post-Cultural Revolution PRC anyway, but I could sense a very tense competition between average Chinese to fight for every available rancid scrap of food they could find, just to stay alive. Sad, truly sad. Damn that Mao Tse-Tung (White House flunkie Anita Dunn's hero) to the hottest level of hell possible!
33 posted on 07/02/2012 8:07:40 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Rebel Colonists, tax-harassed by a government out of control, fed up,set up their OWN "death panels")
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To: driftdiver

If possum was as popular in America as dog was in Korea, there’d be hundreds of restaurants serving it in our major cities and half the population would have tried it.

“Though far from an everyday presence on the dinner table, a survey carried out by the National Assembly in 2006 showed that 55.3 percent of Korean adults had tried dog meat at least once.”

http://view.koreaherald.com/kh/view.php?ud=20110808000582&cpv=0

There are more than 530 restaurants in Seoul that serve dog in the summer.

http://news.mk.co.kr/outside/view.php?year=2008&no=526559


34 posted on 07/02/2012 8:13:21 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mount Athos

And?


35 posted on 07/02/2012 8:37:20 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Is this a trick question?


36 posted on 07/02/2012 8:40:40 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mount Athos

The point of using opossum is to point out that people will eat whats available. Asians typically eat things not consumed in the West. Just as people in the west eat things they wouldn’t think of in Asia.

After WWII South Korea was decimated and there was very little food. There weren’t any cows and few pigs for people to eat. What did exist was far too expensive.

I’m sure the people of North Korea would love to have a fido or two.


37 posted on 07/02/2012 8:46:36 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Chong

Look, Mr. Hypersentive,
I have no problem with Koreans eating dog, kimchi or anything else except themselves because cannibalism befits no one. But I bet there have been instances in North Korea where this has possibly happened because of how dire the hunger situation is for them. I don’t want to see the North Korean people suffer from hunger or from any of the other maladies associated with collectivism that has been imposed upon them for a number of decades.
There are South Korean groups that are sending food, money and other things into the North by way of helium balloons which I fully support and hope they continue to increase. At first the balloon missions were covert and secret because the South Korean government would try to stop them to keep relations between the two countries somewhat friendly. After the NorKs destroyed the ROKS Cheonan corvette the government now fully endorses those ballooning activities.
If it was possible I would like to see a joint military airlift of food by the USA and South Korea into North Korean similar to the Berlin Airlift to East Germany from 1948 to 1949 after the Soviets started walling off East from West. If it happened I’m sure that there would be plenty of traditional Korean dishes served including dog, kimchi, and others as well as American stuff that would probably disgust them.
The whole tongue-in-cheek idea of airlifting dogs by C-17s, having them run off the cargo ramp and parachuting them into NorK-land is just a joke. You need to get a sense of humor. I’m sorry for offending you. I did not mean for it to come across that way.
All the Koreans I have ever met are good and decent people and have no animus against them. I look forward to the day when the North Korean government collapses and Koreans on both sides of the current border will be united. And the collectivist leaders be jailed and prosecuted for their crimes against the Korean people.


38 posted on 07/02/2012 10:53:48 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Chong

Look, Mr. Hypersentive,
I have no problem with Koreans eating dog, kimchi or anything else except themselves because cannibalism befits no one. But I bet there have been instances in North Korea where this has possibly happened because of how dire the hunger situation is for them. I don’t want to see the North Korean people suffer from hunger or from any of the other maladies associated with collectivism that has been imposed upon them for a number of decades.
There are South Korean groups that are sending food, money and other things into the North by way of helium balloons which I fully support and hope they continue to increase. At first the balloon missions were covert and secret because the South Korean government would try to stop them to keep relations between the two countries somewhat friendly. After the NorKs destroyed the ROKS Cheonan corvette the government now fully endorses those ballooning activities.
If it was possible I would like to see a joint military airlift of food by the USA and South Korea into North Korean similar to the Berlin Airlift to East Germany from 1948 to 1949 after the Soviets started walling off East from West. If it happened I’m sure that there would be plenty of traditional Korean dishes served including dog, kimchi, and others as well as American stuff that would probably disgust them.
The whole tongue-in-cheek idea of airlifting dogs by C-17s, having them run off the cargo ramp and parachuting them into NorK-land is just a joke. You need to get a sense of humor. I’m sorry for offending you. I did not mean for it to come across that way.
All the Koreans I have ever met are good and decent people and have no animus against them. I look forward to the day when the North Korean government collapses and Koreans on both sides of the current border will be united. And the collectivist leaders be jailed and prosecuted for their crimes against the Korean people.


39 posted on 07/02/2012 10:54:43 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Chong

Look, Mr. Hypersentive,
I have no problem with Koreans eating dog, kimchi or anything else except themselves because cannibalism befits no one. But I bet there have been instances in North Korea where this has possibly happened because of how dire the hunger situation is for them. I don’t want to see the North Korean people suffer from hunger or from any of the other maladies associated with collectivism that has been imposed upon them for a number of decades.
There are South Korean groups that are sending food, money and other things into the North by way of helium balloons which I fully support and hope they continue to increase. At first the balloon missions were covert and secret because the South Korean government would try to stop them to keep relations between the two countries somewhat friendly. After the NorKs destroyed the ROKS Cheonan corvette the government now fully endorses those ballooning activities.
If it was possible I would like to see a joint military airlift of food by the USA and South Korea into North Korean similar to the Berlin Airlift to East Germany from 1948 to 1949 after the Soviets started walling off East from West. If it happened I’m sure that there would be plenty of traditional Korean dishes served including dog, kimchi, and others as well as American stuff that would probably disgust them.
The whole tongue-in-cheek idea of airlifting dogs by C-17s, having them run off the cargo ramp and parachuting them into NorK-land is just a joke. You need to get a sense of humor. I’m sorry for offending you. I did not mean for it to come across that way.
All the Koreans I have ever met are good and decent people and have no animus against them. I look forward to the day when the North Korean government collapses and Koreans on both sides of the current border will be united. And the collectivist leaders be jailed and prosecuted for their crimes against the Korean people.


40 posted on 07/02/2012 11:00:46 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Chong

Look, Mr. Hypersentive,
I have no problem with Koreans eating dog, kimchi or anything else except themselves because cannibalism befits no one. But I bet there have been instances in North Korea where this has possibly happened because of how dire the hunger situation is for them. I don’t want to see the North Korean people suffer from hunger or from any of the other maladies associated with collectivism that has been imposed upon them for a number of decades.
There are South Korean groups that are sending food, money and other things into the North by way of helium balloons which I fully support and hope they continue to increase. At first the balloon missions were covert and secret because the South Korean government would try to stop them to keep relations between the two countries somewhat friendly. After the NorKs destroyed the ROKS Cheonan corvette the government now fully endorses those ballooning activities.
If it was possible I would like to see a joint military airlift of food by the USA and South Korea into North Korean similar to the Berlin Airlift to East Germany from 1948 to 1949 after the Soviets started walling off East from West. If it happened I’m sure that there would be plenty of traditional Korean dishes served including dog, kimchi, and others as well as American stuff that would probably disgust them.
The whole tongue-in-cheek idea of airlifting dogs by C-17s, having them run off the cargo ramp and parachuting them into NorK-land is just a joke. You need to get a sense of humor. I’m sorry for offending you. I did not mean for it to come across that way.
All the Koreans I have ever met are good and decent people and have no animus against them. I look forward to the day when the North Korean government collapses and Koreans on both sides of the current border will be united. And the collectivist leaders be jailed and prosecuted for their crimes against the Korean people.


41 posted on 07/02/2012 11:03:42 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Sorry about the multiple posts. From what I could see from my end my post wasn’t getting through.


42 posted on 07/02/2012 11:07:00 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: driftdiver

“The point of using opossum is to point out that people will eat whats available.”

This is why I LOVE Free Republic! Where else can one go to have a rousing opossum vs. dog debate full of insults, passion and cultural defensiveness? I’m waiting for you guys to start trading recipes and arguing about that.

Can anyone out there who has eaten both tell me which tastes better?


43 posted on 07/02/2012 11:14:23 AM PDT by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: Owl558

Depends on how its prepared.


44 posted on 07/02/2012 11:16:17 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

If you want to support balloon flights of food, money, socks, and other items to North Korean you can donate to these organizations.

http://www.crowdrise.com/northkoreapeace1
http://www.nkfreedom.org/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktOf9FIFhvQ

It looks like Voice of The Martyrs sends faxes to the NorKs as well as balloons.
http://www.persecution.com/public/newsroom.aspx?story_ID=MTQ3
http://www.persecution.com/public/media.aspx?mediapage_ID=Mjg3

Even though this is a drop in the bucket for what the North Korean people need this is at least a start.


45 posted on 07/02/2012 11:28:32 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Owl558

I don’t know which tastes better since I have tried neither but I have heard dog does make you feel warm all over after eating it. Others on FR have said the same.


46 posted on 07/02/2012 11:32:12 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Mount Athos

“Is this a trick question?”

Depends on how you define “is” in the sentence!


47 posted on 07/02/2012 11:33:48 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: driftdiver

It’s OK. Great, in fact. We need a few laughs these days. Thought you might have meant to make a funny.


48 posted on 07/02/2012 4:13:53 PM PDT by Twinkie (Isaiah 53)
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