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Obamacare Survives, but Political Playing Field Has Changed
Townhall.com ^ | July 2, 2012 | Michael Barone

Posted on 07/02/2012 5:23:06 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 07/02/2012 5:23:13 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Welcome to Obvious-Land, Mister Barone.


2 posted on 07/02/2012 5:29:45 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Kaslin

Barone is usually spot on with his analysis. I sure hope he’s right with this one.......


3 posted on 07/02/2012 5:31:28 AM PDT by Reo (the 4th Estate is a 5th Column)
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To: Kaslin

Republicans need to go on offense on this. Where are the ads to counter the tax-paid, pro-Obamacare ads aired by the regime????


4 posted on 07/02/2012 5:34:46 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: Kaslin

Obama Leads Romney In Polls Of Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania

Posted: 06/27/2012 9:18 am Updated: 06/27/2012 10:29 pm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/27/quinnipiac-polls-obama-romney_n_1630225.html

Romney is a terrible candidate. Obama should be getting creamed in the polls. I am sick of the republican party shoving these losers on us! All I can do is hope for a mutiny at the convention.


5 posted on 07/02/2012 5:37:52 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Kaslin
Is it not an ineffable truth that the GOP is close to
choosing absolutely, positively the WRONG PERSON
to lead a serious challenge against socialized medicine,
given that THIS IS THE MOMENT in which the entire USA
absolutely, positively hates socialized medicine?



6 posted on 07/02/2012 5:39:06 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kaslin

“The idea is that Congress can’t use the leverage of partial federal funding to force the states to increase the size and scope of government.”

This could be very interesting. The feds ALWAYS FORCE states to do stuff by threatening the flow of money - like raise the drinking age, wear seat belts, give calculators to Kindergarteners for math, require kids not learn phonics until 3rd grade, etc.

Maybe a state or two will step and fight this crap.


7 posted on 07/02/2012 5:48:51 AM PDT by BobL
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To: ilovesarah2012

“Obama Leads Romney In Polls Of Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania”

Do you think that any of the others would be doing better at this point? I, like most FReepers, wanted any of them (other than Perry because he wants to sell off our freeways), but I doubt Santorum/Newt/Michelle/etc. would be running away with it either.

Carter was cleaning Reagan’s clock at this point too. I’m no Romney-lover, but people simply are not focused on the election. To me it sounds like Republicans are ready to take this health care issue to the voters and the voters don’t want it. And they’re not that hot on Obama for other reasons.

Let’s see how Obama’s doing in the middle of October.


8 posted on 07/02/2012 5:55:14 AM PDT by BobL
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To: ilovesarah2012

Romney is the worst major candidate of all those who ran, no doubt. But because of conservative division and his money and organization, he won the primaries.

You need to be careful assuming that Quinnipiac state polls are somehow iron clad predictions of anything. They are a liberal organization. They do not have a great track record of accuracy.

In addition, you are talking about a snapshot in time.

That snapshot is over. It was over before the polls you link to were even published.

If you doubt their leftism at that polling organization, just look at where they were being ballyhooed: the Huffington Post - of all leftist rags.


9 posted on 07/02/2012 5:58:21 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Kaslin

Oh, Ok, am I supposed to be happy now? Barone, your logic escapes one big fat in-your-face fact... Obama and the Democrats do whatever the hell they please, regardless of law... you think that the “high” court ruling puts a limit on these ass>o<’s actions? Always trying to put a silver lining on the bleakest of realities. They hold a gun to your head and you notice that the safety lock is on, makes you feel a whole lot better don’t it... you imbecile.


10 posted on 07/02/2012 6:00:44 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: Kaslin

The comment I heard about Roberts playing chess while everyone else was playing checkers seems apt.


11 posted on 07/02/2012 6:36:59 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrats are the problem. Vote them out, all of them.)
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To: Kaslin

Arguing that economic distress would make Americans more supportive of big government policies.

Did Obama write that?.


12 posted on 07/02/2012 7:00:42 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Kaslin

This guy is dreaming if he believes a liberal appellate court or a future liberal Supreme Court will honor these “limits” on the commerce clause.


13 posted on 07/02/2012 7:05:55 AM PDT by Jake8898
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To: ilovesarah2012

Obama Leads Romney In Polls Of Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania

Posted: 06/27/2012 9:18 am Updated: 06/27/2012 10:29 pm

That is a lifetime away for barry right now. Thnx to the SC obamacare disaster


14 posted on 07/02/2012 7:12:19 AM PDT by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: Kaslin

Romney has to come up with a very effective campaign linking the Obamacare tax increases to the sluggish economy. It all has to be tied together.

Democrats are attempting to separate the two by saying the Obamacare decision is water over the dam - now let’s get back to the economy and jobs. They can’t be permitted to get away with that. The two need to be inextricably linked-starting ASAP.


15 posted on 07/02/2012 7:13:16 AM PDT by randita (Beware of those peddling fear and defeatism. They do not have our best interests at heart.)
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To: Kaslin
The blowback from the passage of Obamacare peaked in the election of 2010. The fact that the Republican establishment managed to jam Romney in as the nominee demonstrates that since he is the worst candidate to respond to Obamacare. It will not be a winning issue in 2012, so all Obama has to do is keep the economy marginally alive for the next few months.
16 posted on 07/02/2012 7:21:34 AM PDT by throwback (The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Exactly, Pray for the Republican Convention to nominate another candidate.

BUT WHO? SARAH PALIN? TANCREDO? GOOD MEN AND WOMEN SELDOM WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS, IT IS RARE AND IT DOES HAPPEN.

PRAY FOR A CONSERVATIVE TO COME FORTH AND RESTORE AMERICA TO OUR FONSTITUTION.,, IN JESUS NAME.


17 posted on 07/02/2012 8:08:20 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: Kaslin
The Administration's over-reach for power, based on its apparent reliance on the constitutional illiteracy of a majority of citizens, may now have awakened that citizenry to a renewed interest in their Constitution's limits and bounds on government power.

Readers: if you have read the following on another thread today, please ignore. If not, then perhaps, as Barone indicates, for the first time in seven decades, the Constitution's limits are the subject of intense political discussion and study. That is a good thing for the future of liberty.

"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it; no constitution, no law, no court even can do much to help it." - Judge Learned Hand

Now is the time for "the People" to stand for the foundational principles of liberty enshrined in the 1787 Constitution.

Despite last week's ruling, the "Trojan horse" called "health care reform" simply was a vehicle in the goal of "transforming America" from its foundations in individual liberty to one of coercive rule by political elites--imperfect persons in positions of power in government.

America's Founders understood the latter concept well, and they soundly rejected it in favor of a written "People's" Constitution to forever limit, separate, check and balance, and "bind down" their elected and appointed representatives in government. In Article V, they provided the only valid means of amending that written Constitution. The results were astounding!

Then, along came the so-called "progressives" who, in their arrogance and lust for power and control, several decades ago began to erode those "foundations" of individual liberty. Now, led by the current Administration, "health care reform" was to lay a different and opposite foundation.

By the Founders' formula, "the People's" written Constitution was the anchor of our liberties, binding government to the "People's" limitations on its power.

The "progressives" (who are, in fact, regressive in their counterfeit ideas), in effect, would undo all the monumental work accomplished by the Founders on behalf of liberty and leave the law afloat and without anchor, relying, as of old, on mere men and women.

From Page xv of "Our Ageless Constitution," allow me to include here excerpted words from President Andrew Jackson's Proclamation of December 10, 1832:

"We have received it [the Constitution] as the work of the assembled wisdom of the nation. We have trusted to it as to the sheet anchor of our safety in the stormy times of conflict with a foreign or domestic foe. We have looked to it with sacred awe as the palladium of our liberties, and with all the solemnities of religion have pledged to each other our lives and fortunes here and our hopes of happiness hereafter in its defense and support. Were we mistaken, my countrymen, in attaching this importance to the Constitution . . .? No. We were not mistaken. The letter of this great instrument is free from this radical fault. . . . No, we did not err! . . . The sages . . . have given us a practical and, as they hoped, a permanent* Constitutional compact. . . . The Constitution is still the object of our reverence, the bond of our Union, our defense in danger, the source of our prosperity in peace: it shall descend, as we have received it, uncorrupted by sophistical construction, to our posterity. . . ."

*Underlining added for emphasis

And, it was Thomas Jefferson who used another metaphor with reference to the Constitution when he indicated that "the People" must "bind them (government) by the chains of the Constitution." In another instance, he declared: "It was intended to lace them up straitly within the enumerated powers. . . ."

With that in mind, we also might remember these words from President Washington's "Farewell Address":

". . . Towards the preservation of your Government and the permanency of your present happy state, it is requisite, not only that you steadily discountenance irregular oppositions to its acknowledged authority, but also that you resist with care the spirit of innovation upon its principles, however specious the pretexts. --One method of assault may be to effect, in the forms of the Constitution, alterations which will impair the energy of the system, and thus to undermine what cannot be directly overthrown. . . ."

Rather than railing against the ruling, whatever energy lovers of liberty can muster should be directed toward enlightening the minds of fellow citizens in the urgent need to study and understand what Washington, Jefferson, Jackson and the other Founders understood--that imperfect people who assume power over the lives of their fellow citizens are to be "bound down by the chains of the Constitution," according to the Author of our Declaration of Independence.

18 posted on 07/02/2012 9:01:01 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Diogenesis
Is it not an ineffable truth that the GOP is close to choosing absolutely, positively the WRONG PERSON to lead a serious challenge against socialized medicine, given that THIS IS THE MOMENT in which the entire USA absolutely, positively hates socialized medicine?

You have been asked be several freepers including myself who in your mind would be the the right person, but you refuse to answer. Until you do, do me a favor and don't bore me with your anti Romney rant

19 posted on 07/02/2012 9:15:48 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Mike Darancette

That is what I heard too, although it was not meant literally in case someone thinks so


20 posted on 07/02/2012 9:18:59 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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