Posted on 07/03/2012 9:28:27 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
More tot he point though vigorously ignored so far is the FACT that as a tax bill the lting sonofabitch int he Oval Office does not have a Constitutional right to exempt his campaign donor base from the taxes ... the waivers little barry bastard commie has been issuing are a violation of his designated powers under the Constituion. Will the feckless pubby House do anythign about it? ... They won’t even raise the issue!
“The USSC says it’s only constitutional if it is a tax. As long as they keep saying it’s not a tax, I don’t see where they have any authority to collect it.”
Because they have the tanks and will do whatever they damn well want.
The amount of ObamaCare tax is calculated based on income. So, as always, we who pay federal income tax will pay for the freeloaders.
Uuuuuhhhh, would you believe: “Reaching across the aisle...”?
Since Roberts did rule the mandate a tax, and Roberts said that a tax can only be challenged once it's assessed, then we have to have a tax assessed and then challenged as an unconstitutional tax.
We still have to have the Congress move to repeal Obamacare, but we also have to have a court challenge ready to go once the government begins to collect the tax.
Once a mandate tax is assessed, Republicans have to argue that the Constitution does not allow that kind of tax and then have SCOTUS take a second look at it.
The arguments for it being an unconstitutional tax are:
1. It's a tax on something that the Congress is not allowed to do.
2. It's a coercive contract, that is, it's a mandate that is hiding as a tax because of the prison penalty for failing to pay the tax.
3. It violates the 8th amendment protection against excessive fines or cruel and unusual punishment. The person has no choice but to comply with mandate by paying the tax. Being thrown in jail for refusing to purchase health care insurance from a private provider is excessive punishment It's cruel and unusual because the costs of jailing someone will far exceed the cost of health care for the person. The prison environment will be a lot less healthy for the person, too.
-PJ
Hasn't that old 'boot to the neck' thing been tired in other places? It seems so familiar...
I will comply for as long as I am able. I will pay all unjust taxes; I will follow all unjust laws; I will bear the burdens for all freeloaders to my last dollar, and accept the reigns of a tyrannical government.
And when I can bear no more....I shall Shrug. And you tyranny - shall fail and your followers starve.
Bet on it. When I am gone so shall you be.
Do they have to pay the penalty/tax?”
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NO! That's different.
“So, if you are too poor to buy health insurance, you have to comne up with a way to pay a tax?”
That’s the deal in Romneyland. Say you lose your job, and are on unemployment for 6 months. When you fill out the certification of insurance for your state taxes, the tax folks notice that you had no health insurance while you were unemployed and they ding you with a penalty that is not a tax although it is all handled by the state tax compliance people.
Naturally you COULD pay $600 a month for COBRA or whatever alternative they offer you in Massachusetts. If you are not poor enough for “free” health insurance, you get fined if you are too poor to pay.
This dim tactic always makes me want to spit. This dimobot says that I am increasing her health care costs... The dims are responsible for making hospitals accept all comers regardless of ability to pay, which does increase the price charged to payers, if health care was really available only to those with a means of paying, the costs would go down.
The Democrats have been rewarding and encouraging irresponsibility since the Great society programs of the 60’s.
Now they have the nerve to tell the producers be responsible or else?
Now I’ve heard everything! The ‘Progressive’ Democrats complaining about ‘Freeloaders’!!!
Remember 400% of HHS Poverty Guidelines qualifies for subsidizing.
How Obamacare Could Help You Retire Earlier (or Destroy Itself Trying)
By Chuck Saletta, The Motley Fool
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/06/29/how-obamacare-could-help-you-retire-earlier-or-destroy-itself-t/
Exactly. Was she talking to ILLEGAL ALIENS when she said that?
Sorry Debbie. I don’t have an extra $600/month lying around to buy your filthy insurance. And you are outlawing and taking away the catastrophic insurance I CAN afford. In the meantime, Debbie, can you send me a good picture of yourself? I’d like to put it on my dart board.
Why are you picking on witches?
Now DNC Debbie Douche-nozzle wants to take it away from me.
Bring it b*tch. This line in the sand I TOLD you not to cross.
No more warnings.
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