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DNC Wasserman Schultz tells you failure to comply with Obamacare will no longer be tolerated
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Posted on 07/03/2012 9:28:27 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper

Here's the CNN clip:

http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/02/dnc-chair-tells-cnn-health-care-is-a-penalty/?iref=allsearch

From her mouth: "It's not a tax".

The Internal Revenue Service would be the “easiest enforcer” of penalties against those who refuse to comply for those who fail to not pay the tax that isn't.

“This is a penalty that will be assessed on the tax return if you choose to roll the dice and make us all pay for your being irresponsible and increase all of our health care costs...“We’re not going to tolerate that any more in America. You have to be responsible and you have to pay a penalty if you choose not to be..."

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KEYWORDS: abortion; amish; deathpanels; dnc; dncstrategy; liberalfascism; mandatetax; medicaid; obamacare; obamacaredecision; obamacaretaxes; ocareexemptions; socialsecurity; statists; totalitarian; totalitarians; wassermanschultz; zerocare
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1 posted on 07/03/2012 9:28:33 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: WKUHilltopper

“We’re not going to tolerate that any more in America. You have to be responsible and you have to pay a penalty if you choose not to be...”

That was the case before the government got involved.


2 posted on 07/03/2012 9:29:55 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Is this attributed statement a joke?


3 posted on 07/03/2012 9:31:17 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: WKUHilltopper

so it’s not a tax even though they’re using a tax collecting agency to ensure compliance. Yeah that’ll be fine with most Americans, not.


4 posted on 07/03/2012 9:31:35 AM PDT by Jeff Vader
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To: WKUHilltopper

I am absolutely sick of these evil ### treatening us. Who the hell do they think they are? It is high time we found a permanent solution to this mess.

And that solution will not be found by the GOPDC. They are useless for the most part. They should be slapping this trash down. I have heard very little of consequence from the republicans Washington. Where are these little cowards?


5 posted on 07/03/2012 9:33:04 AM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
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To: WKUHilltopper

At some point we will return to the attitude that fascists will not be tolerated.


6 posted on 07/03/2012 9:33:15 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: WKUHilltopper
http://rexcurry.net/socialism-posters/posters/sa.jpg

You WILL submit to government authority!

7 posted on 07/03/2012 9:33:35 AM PDT by KC_Lion (The Supreme Court issued their ruling on Obamacare. Soon, We the People shall issue ours.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

By all means, let her keep talking!


8 posted on 07/03/2012 9:34:08 AM PDT by Freestate316
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To: WKUHilltopper

So, if you are too poor to buy health insurance, you have to comne up with a way to pay a tax?


9 posted on 07/03/2012 9:34:53 AM PDT by Mr. K (OBAMA MUST BE STOPPED ROMNEY/GINGRICH)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


10 posted on 07/03/2012 9:34:53 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: WKUHilltopper

I have a car and pay for auto insurance. People who don’t drive or own cars are killed in car accidents.

Shouldn’t they be taxed for their failure to buy auto insurance?


11 posted on 07/03/2012 9:35:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: WKUHilltopper
Is this the freaking Gestapo!!!
12 posted on 07/03/2012 9:35:20 AM PDT by grb
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To: cuban leaf

love Rush’s take on this: these people are now defined as: Scofflaws.. 2 years ago they were victims.. poor folks without insurance.

hilarious but infuriating.


13 posted on 07/03/2012 9:35:46 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: WKUHilltopper

Don’t illegal aliens forcxe us all to pay more for health care?

Do they have to pay the penalty/tax?


14 posted on 07/03/2012 9:36:08 AM PDT by Mr. K (OBAMA MUST BE STOPPED ROMNEY/GINGRICH)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Don’t illegal aliens forcxe us all to pay more for health care?

Do they have to pay the penalty/tax?


15 posted on 07/03/2012 9:36:08 AM PDT by Mr. K (OBAMA MUST BE STOPPED ROMNEY/GINGRICH)
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To: WKUHilltopper
Uh, Debbie, maybe you can talk with the Solicitor General who had to argue that it was a tax as the only way to sneak it through the Supreme Court.

And from the same CNN page "Sen. Snowe: Both sides have to come together". Well, I guess we'll need 52 senators to get a majority now. @(#$(@( RINOs.

16 posted on 07/03/2012 9:36:26 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Listening to this nonsense from Democrats is a real hoot. The freeloaders are Democrats. They are attacking their own. Don’t these stupid people know who the freeloaders are?


17 posted on 07/03/2012 9:36:29 AM PDT by pallis
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To: WKUHilltopper

Enough already. Shut up Debbie, and find a hair dresser that charges more than 50 cents.


18 posted on 07/03/2012 9:36:37 AM PDT by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: cuban leaf

We’re not going to tolerate that any more in America. You have to be responsible and you have to pay a penalty if you choose not to be...”


A citizen , a contributor, etc. How about those words for being an American.

Don’t attach it to healthcare, just say the penalty is you aren’t going to participate in any freebies, and will need to make it on your own.


19 posted on 07/03/2012 9:36:47 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: WKUHilltopper

well I am retired. all they can do is take what I might have left behind for my kids. right now the kids are taking it so good luck to the feds.


20 posted on 07/03/2012 9:36:55 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: WKUHilltopper

Debbie, those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it............oh, and get a new hair dresser.......or simply get one period........


21 posted on 07/03/2012 9:37:05 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: WKUHilltopper

This morning on a local radio station I heard a tax attorney say that effective in 2013 there will be a 3.8% 0bamacare tax on the gross sales price of a home. He said that if you sell a $100,000 condominium $3,800 tax will be taken from you while the property is in escrow. Can anybody confirm this? What other surprises lay in store for us?


22 posted on 07/03/2012 9:38:16 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: cripplecreek
http://moonbattery.com/john-roberts.jpg

Yes

So says John "Roger Taney" Roberts

23 posted on 07/03/2012 9:38:38 AM PDT by KC_Lion (The Supreme Court issued their ruling on Obamacare. Soon, We the People shall issue ours.)
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To: WKUHilltopper
That is one scary-looking witch.


24 posted on 07/03/2012 9:39:11 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Hey Deb!

I’m not going to “comply”.

Why don’t you come over here and show me what happens when your intolerance runs out?


25 posted on 07/03/2012 9:40:44 AM PDT by G Larry (I'm under no obligation to be a passive victim!)
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To: WKUHilltopper

26 posted on 07/03/2012 9:41:01 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Mr. K

27 posted on 07/03/2012 9:41:17 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: dalebert

“well I am retired. all they can do is take what I might have left behind for my kids. right now the kids are taking it so good luck to the feds.”

I think they eventually do away with Medicare and merge this with Obamacare. Some ‘rocket scientist’ will start touting, “why have two big programs...let’s take advantage of economies of scale”. This will be the mantra and excuse to kill off Medicare.


28 posted on 07/03/2012 9:41:34 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: WKUHilltopper

“and make us all pay for your being irresponsible and increase all of our health care costs”

But illegal aliens get free health care.


29 posted on 07/03/2012 9:41:46 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: WKUHilltopper
We’re not going to tolerate

silly liberal woman

That'll do.
30 posted on 07/03/2012 9:41:55 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: forgotten man

I’ve heard the same.


31 posted on 07/03/2012 9:42:04 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

It is funny to now see the Democrats so concerned about freeloaders after they have spent the last several decades enabling them.


32 posted on 07/03/2012 9:42:44 AM PDT by Infralutheran
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To: WKUHilltopper
“This is a penalty that will be assessed on the tax return if you choose to roll the dice and make us all pay for your being irresponsible and increase all of our health care costs.

Unless you are among the chosen getting waivers
33 posted on 07/03/2012 9:43:06 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: forgotten man

I’ve heard the same.


34 posted on 07/03/2012 9:44:12 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: WKUHilltopper
"It's not a tax".

The USSC says it's only constitutional if it is a tax. As long as they keep saying it's not a tax, I don't see where they have any authority to collect it.

35 posted on 07/03/2012 9:44:52 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Mr. K

That statement is where Republicans are missing the boat. No the poor will not pay a tax or penalty or anything.....just like always. They will be forced on the Medicaid roles or will receive subsidies to purchase real insurance.
So just like always the people in the middles will be paying for the poors’ insurance. Nothing has changed with this bill regarding the ‘poor’ except they are guaranteeing that we now pay for more of them.


36 posted on 07/03/2012 9:45:11 AM PDT by sheana
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To: WKUHilltopper
I am tired of paying for other people's irresponsible behavior.

I think I will quit working and quit paying taxes.

Obama voters can pay for their own crap.

37 posted on 07/03/2012 9:46:49 AM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
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To: WKUHilltopper

The best part is, the IRS doesn’t have to comply with the constitution. There’s no due process of law, you’re guilty before innocent and they can commandeer your assets just on a “hunch”.


38 posted on 07/03/2012 9:48:02 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: WKUHilltopper

This would sound so much better in German you Nazi Bit#$


39 posted on 07/03/2012 9:49:05 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

We are still awestruck here that the regime-in-power decided to seize control over Everybody’s health care and access thereto, instead of simply addressing the perceived needs (such as...take your pick....authorizing health insurance policies to be available on an interstate basis, maybe offering some additional subsidies for any distress or poverty cases..or whatever was seen as a problem ...you name it, I don’t have to like it or agree with it to understand that maybe some politicians might want to propose more spending or programs or rules.. But to Take Over Everyone’s access to health care services!? (And to cram it down our throats through keeping the bill secret so our elected reps couldn’t even see what they were being told to vote for... and to lie to our faces about “no taxes” and “keep your doctor” and “no abortion spending”....lies, lies, lies, and more lies. A horrible approach......(follow the money, you can BET some politicians are being paid off to cram such an unpopular and unworkable pile of crud on us!) Just random thoughts. I would personally add that any health care programs outside of the military and possibly the VA should be decided and handed at the state or local levels, it not being the Federales’ job to run such welfare programs...


40 posted on 07/03/2012 9:49:28 AM PDT by faithhopecharity
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To: tacticalogic

More tot he point though vigorously ignored so far is the FACT that as a tax bill the lting sonofabitch int he Oval Office does not have a Constitutional right to exempt his campaign donor base from the taxes ... the waivers little barry bastard commie has been issuing are a violation of his designated powers under the Constituion. Will the feckless pubby House do anythign about it? ... They won’t even raise the issue!


41 posted on 07/03/2012 9:50:14 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: tacticalogic

“The USSC says it’s only constitutional if it is a tax. As long as they keep saying it’s not a tax, I don’t see where they have any authority to collect it.”

Because they have the tanks and will do whatever they damn well want.


42 posted on 07/03/2012 9:50:18 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Mr. K
So, if you are too poor to buy health insurance, you have to comne up with a way to pay a tax?

The amount of ObamaCare tax is calculated based on income. So, as always, we who pay federal income tax will pay for the freeloaders.

43 posted on 07/03/2012 9:50:35 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: formosa

Uuuuuhhhh, would you believe: “Reaching across the aisle...”?


44 posted on 07/03/2012 9:50:57 AM PDT by jennings2004 ("Just give Granny a pill...." Obama's healthcare = Death panel)
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To: WKUHilltopper
There is one last chance to have the Court reverse itself, but it will take a lot of coordinated effort and good timing.

Since Roberts did rule the mandate a tax, and Roberts said that a tax can only be challenged once it's assessed, then we have to have a tax assessed and then challenged as an unconstitutional tax.

We still have to have the Congress move to repeal Obamacare, but we also have to have a court challenge ready to go once the government begins to collect the tax.

Once a mandate tax is assessed, Republicans have to argue that the Constitution does not allow that kind of tax and then have SCOTUS take a second look at it.

The arguments for it being an unconstitutional tax are:

1. It's a tax on something that the Congress is not allowed to do.

2. It's a coercive contract, that is, it's a mandate that is hiding as a tax because of the prison penalty for failing to pay the tax.

3. It violates the 8th amendment protection against excessive fines or cruel and unusual punishment. The person has no choice but to comply with mandate by paying the tax. Being thrown in jail for refusing to purchase health care insurance from a private provider is excessive punishment It's cruel and unusual because the costs of jailing someone will far exceed the cost of health care for the person. The prison environment will be a lot less healthy for the person, too.

-PJ

45 posted on 07/03/2012 9:52:14 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: cuban leaf
“We’re not going to tolerate that any more in America. You have to be responsible and you have to pay a penalty if you choose not to be...”

Hasn't that old 'boot to the neck' thing been tired in other places? It seems so familiar...

46 posted on 07/03/2012 9:52:29 AM PDT by GOPJ (Way to go Kraft Foods. I now associate your brand with anal sex.(Oreo cookies) Freeper agere_contra)
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To: Mr. K
Don’t illegal aliens forcxe us all to pay more for health care?

Do they have to pay the penalty/tax?


Of course not, because they are doing us a favor by doing the work Americans won't do. We are to be grateful.
47 posted on 07/03/2012 9:52:51 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: WKUHilltopper

I will comply for as long as I am able. I will pay all unjust taxes; I will follow all unjust laws; I will bear the burdens for all freeloaders to my last dollar, and accept the reigns of a tyrannical government.

And when I can bear no more....I shall Shrug. And you tyranny - shall fail and your followers starve.

Bet on it. When I am gone so shall you be.


48 posted on 07/03/2012 9:52:55 AM PDT by KittenClaws (A closed mouth gathers no foot.)
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To: Mr. K
“Don’t illegal aliens forcxe us all to pay more for health care?

Do they have to pay the penalty/tax?”

___

NO! That's different.

49 posted on 07/03/2012 9:53:11 AM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: cripplecreek
Oh now stop that! You're injecting reason into the fashionably irrational.
50 posted on 07/03/2012 9:53:23 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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