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Questions about chief justice's health-care ruling could have lasting impact (+new leak info)
Yahoo/Christian Science Monitor ^ | 7-3-12 | Warren Richey

Posted on 07/03/2012 10:50:55 PM PDT by STARWISE

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121 posted on 07/05/2012 8:46:04 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: butterdezillion
With the kind of research you do and the advanced level if you are feeling alone,isolated and one of a kind, it means only one thing. You are on the right track.

We all get that sooner or sooner. Don't let the idiots slow you down.Trust your own judgment.What usually happens is stuff you uncover now others will as well,much later. You are just ahead of the game.

122 posted on 07/06/2012 5:52:41 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: butterdezillion

Man... what a bunch of paranoid claptrap that is.

Unfortunately, I believe it’s all true, and that it’s only the top part of the iceberg.


123 posted on 07/06/2012 10:23:13 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Fledermaus
I went to college with Bill Gwatney. He drank too much and did way too many drugs in the late 1970’s. He was a daddy’s boy and a pussy. I doubt he was “killed”.

Well... I'm sure the autopsy results will back up your contention.

Do you know what those results were ?

124 posted on 07/06/2012 10:27:26 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Fledermaus

The LR papers? Is that the dinosaur media?

The Hillary supporters have more guts in the face of threats than the media. And the thing about their statements is that they have details that ring true, especially when combined with what Ulsterman’s “White House Insider” has said - which is another instance where what is said by the WHI ends up being vindicated by others later on. These folks are democrats so they’ve had an inside view on a lot of this stuff. If they are willing to tell the story, Obama could have big problems on his hands.


125 posted on 07/06/2012 10:42:17 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: rodguy911

Thanks for the encouragement. It’s such a difficult thing to have information that makes a big difference and nobody who is willing to hear it. Very easy to start feeling like nothing really matters anyway, because nobody will LET it matter.

I’ll keep soldiering on.


126 posted on 07/06/2012 10:56:00 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: UCANSEE2

lol. Sounds like you understand perfectly exactly where I’m at too. I hate sounding like a nut to people who haven’t checked out any of this stuff, but there are too many reasons for me to believe it’s true so I can’t just write it off and forget about it.

Sometimes I feel like there really are parallel worlds in this universe - the real one, and the imaginary one - and most people are in the imaginary one, with no interest or willingness to ever have that dream world invaded by reality. They’d rather let it fly overhead and just shake their fists every now and then at those crazy people who talk nonsense. lol.

I wish this world was not how it is right now. I wish we could go back to semi-normal existence.


127 posted on 07/06/2012 11:13:28 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

You are welcome. Just telling it as I see it after 40+ years as a part time journalist.
Don’t ever let any of the idiots get to you .
Hard work and good solid research always wins out.You obviously do both.


128 posted on 07/06/2012 12:11:40 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911

That means a lot to me.

What hurts the most is that the “idiots” on this issue are family members I’ve been close with, who used to believe in me. They won’t even listen to anything; it’s like their brains are turned off.

Our youth Bible class discussed “The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe” on Sunday and one of the questions was whether there was any particular character that we particularly identify with. I didn’t say it but I REALLY identify with Lucy, because her siblings wouldn’t believe what she said about Narnia being in the wardrobe even though she had always been honest and trustworthy. They were too “smart” - too “logical” in their own warped logic to give her claims any chance at all.

It’s hurtful. I know they’re just too busy to sort it all out, and really don’t want to go after a goose-chase they think will never make a difference. It’s just easier to think Nellie’s crazy and try to avoid the issue. And I actually prefer to avoid the issue with them too; it only reminds me that they don’t trust my integrity, intellectual capability, and judgment. sigh.


129 posted on 07/06/2012 9:10:49 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

0bama, Soros, AQ and the MB want to obliterate the US. “Jihad: From Jakarta to the White House” isn’t just a title.

You aren’t alone, bdz. Not by a long shot.

The larger question for me is what entity do these people want to drop on us and force us to live...or die as a casualty of ‘creating’ it? What. Will it be the kingdom of 0bamerica? Soramerica? Deutschama?

I have a friend who can’t be bothered with TV news or news of the assault on the US. I believe many people are like this. They don’t pay attention.

And so, as with the two little boys I saw just yesterday, the future will be quite different than anything anyone in this country has ever seen or known on this continent in a very few years. We will be a 3rd world chit hole, just like 0bama and his handlers want.

We shall be pillaged, plundered and sacked, if 0bama and crew are not thrown out on their ears. Most of the Congress is as corrupt as the old, gnarly ‘old ones’ of Sparta and need to go.

Still, the cabal wants to flood the country with foreigners and other non-Western types and make mongrels that fight each other dog-eat-dog style.

Clinton? Care about this country? Either of them? Really? Is that why BilyJeff sold the Communist Chinese our technologies? Yeah, right.


130 posted on 07/06/2012 10:12:18 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: butterdezillion
We shall be pillaged, plundered and sacked, if 0bama and crew are not thrown out on their ears. Most of the Congress is as corrupt as the old, gnarly ‘old ones’ of Sparta and need to go.

Bottom line from the post above by combat boots and he's right.

They were too “smart” - too “logical” in their own warped logic to give her claims any chance at all. It’s hurtful. I know they’re just too busy to sort it all out, and really don’t want to go after a goose-chase they think will never make a difference. It’s just easier to think Nellie’s crazy and try to avoid the issue.

You have their number as well. Average ordinary people who are basically over their head in trying to discuss any of this with you or many Freepers or others who have done their homework automatically get frustrated quickly in most any political discussion and then need a fall guy.It's not them who are ill-informed so it must be you.

For me it was a frustrating experience once I learned to research properly and get to a level where mysterious events in politics and other areas started to seem common or even ordinary.

Once you start predicting what these clowns will do its a whole new level.

Bottom line for me I learned a lot. Got frustrated that others didn't bother,went where you are and then decided that it really wasn't me that didn't know what I was talking about but the half truthers, the half knowledgers who all knew just what they had seen on NBC with Brian and that's it.The sum of all their knowledge.

I decided they were a long way from the truth and started to laugh at what they knew vs. what we here have figured out here.

It's two different worlds and there is no going back.

They are stuck in dummy land. Many of my relatives as well. And we are not.

131 posted on 07/07/2012 2:23:34 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: combat_boots

My own belief, based on what I see and how it lines up with what I believe we can understand from Revelation, is that we are headed for a world economic collapse (the fall of Babylon the great and the cries of woe from all who were drunk in the wine of her adulteries) followed by sharia under communism, in which dhimmis will be forced to accept the mark of the beast (sharia-compliant finance) in order to buy and sell. Those who refuse will be killed, and those who remain will wish they were dead before long, as the full weight of sharia comes down. Soros’ belief that he is God and his alliance with the corrupt-government beast (communism) and the corrupt-religion beast (Islam) suggest that we are in for some really, really bad times.

Personally, I’m expecting either an Islamist coup after which I and my family will be either shot or beheaded because we’ve been enemies of Soros’ communist-Islamist coup, or else if the coup is more gradual I expect we simply won’t be able to get a job or income and will either starve to death (if the sharia is creeping and stealth) or be killed (if the ultimatum is the mark of the beast or death).

And as I look at what’s going on, I believe that Islamist coup could come at any time - particularly if Soros’ communist-Islamist allies make a run on the bank or if Iran uses an EMP on us, either of which could be the signal for Hezbollah operatives in the US to begin the coup and either of which could be the means to prevent an election from occurring which would oust the communist-Islamist cabal from power in the US. Seems like the IMF is thinking they need to push the global warming crap while Obama is in office so they have an interest in preventing him from being ousted as well.

It could take much longer, but it could also be very imminent. My main concern for my extended family and the others who have remained ignorant of what’s going on and why is that they think it’s something else and don’t know the day of their visitation and the choice they are truly making when the mark of the beast is offered.


132 posted on 07/07/2012 5:22:36 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
My own belief, based on what I see and how it lines up with what I believe we can understand from Revelation, is that we are headed for a world economic collapse (the fall of Babylon the great and the cries of woe from all who were drunk in the wine of her adulteries) followed by sharia under communism, in which dhimmis will be forced to accept the mark of the beast (sharia-compliant finance) in order to buy and sell. Those who refuse will be killed, and those who remain will wish they were dead before long, as the full weight of sharia comes down. Soros’ belief that he is God and his alliance with the corrupt-government beast (communism) and the corrupt-religion beast (Islam) suggest that we are in for some really, really bad times.

And if you look at a carpet or a bed of leaves with slightly defocused gaze you can also see all sorts of faces and other images.
133 posted on 07/07/2012 5:31:18 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: livius; redgolum

Thanks, livius, for pointing this out.


134 posted on 07/07/2012 6:00:11 AM PDT by Running On Empty (The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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To: Repeal 16-17

Good point. Maybe he’s been thinking about that.


135 posted on 07/08/2012 12:03:31 AM PDT by juno67 (Gua)
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To: goldi; 1010RD; TalBlack

“I guess he didn’t like all those 5/4 rulings. Why bother to have a Supreme Court?”

I don’t really believe in an activist Supreme Court. It is not the Court’s function to set the nation’s policy. That is the role of the legislature, and people can change legislators when they want to change the law. Roberts said more or less the same thing in his opinion.

The Court should only strike down laws when they clearly violate the Constitution. If you look at the history of the Court’s expansive treatment of the commerce clause, which Roberts discusses in his opinion, it would have been a departure from established judicial precedent to have ruled otherwise. In that sense, even though I disagree with the law, I can understand why Roberts ruled as he did.


136 posted on 07/08/2012 12:24:28 AM PDT by juno67 (Gua)
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