Obama's Social Security Number challenged

WND ^ | July 5, 2012 | Jack Cashill

[Sherman Logan]

Right. You’ve decided the Constitution is now void.

Fine.

Where does that leave us? With raw brute power as the deciding factor.

So who has more of that power and can therefore overrule the other? POTUS or the governor of WI?

[WildHighlander57]

Can you scan any docs and upload any screenshots to back these claims up?

We need something to shut up the obots.

[Brown Deer]

...a set of facts which, if true, would render the controversial Social Security number used by Obama to be a legitimate number.

So if those facts were true and it indeed is a legitimate number for those same reasons, then that would mean that 0bama was NOT a U.S. Citizen during the first 22 years of his life.

[WildHighlander57]

[quote]Obama’s vulnerability is not whether or not the SSN is valid. Obama’s vulnerability is enumerated in his NUMIDENT file with SSA. The NUMIDENT file is a alpha- numeric sequence identifying the applicant. Specifically, Obama’s PRA Field (Permanent Resident Alien) has a “y” in it to indicate he was a Permanent Resident Alien in 1977.[/quote]

OK, please show us this document.

(There IS more than one copy, isn’t there?)

[Brown Deer]

like I said...

[hoosiermama]

FYI:
One of Rezko’s first job was for Louis FerretCON handling the boxer Cassius Clay* convert.

Jesse Robinson Jackson was a Pro Boxer named Noah Robinson

His half bro. Noah Robinson is doing life for his crimes with the El Rukn gang (drugs, male/female prostitution murder for hire) that Uncle Louis converted.`

MO Robinson ancestors are from the same vacinity that JJ’s are from.

The community that BO organized over laps the territory of El Rukn.....

BO is backing the Muslilm Brotherhood. *People change their names when they convert to Islam.....just saying.

[illinifan]

In 1977, Barack Hussein Obama II was a Permanent Resident Alien (Green card holder) living in Hawaii with his grandmother, Madelyn Dunham. Madelyn Dunham had been appointed Obama’s guardian (foster mother) while he was in the legal custody of Catholic Social Services of Connecticut.

Why would Catholic Social Services of Connecticut have legal custody of The One?

[bluecat6]

That's exactly what Brown Deer is doing, stating this bogus theory as fact with no credible supporting data. None, zip, nada.

The scenario is entirely supported by the known data. It is the equation the fits the curve of data points.

Obama returned to the US in 1971. Even though his legal guardians were staying in Indonesia. Sorry, you can not just drop off a kid in a country were his legal guardians ARE NOT RESIDENTS. So how does he re-establish valid guardianship and citizenship after being a 100% Indonesian citizen?

When you have data points that explain that then rocks can be thrown at this scenario. But without an acceptable alternative this is the 'ruling on the field'.

If the 'the booth' wants to change it present the evidence.

[hoosiermama]

If you remember BO spent some time at a Catholic run school in Indonesia, If he was removed from the home due to abuse or other circumstances it is conceivable that the church was involved. SIster of Poor Claire or Nuns affiliated with St Joe of Assisi probably have an office or affiliate in CONN.

When a custodial parent is no longer seen as fit by the authorities the other biological parent is called into court (May be the reason for Srs visit at age ten...family matters IIRC was given as the reason)

If custody/guardianship is awarded to another family member the agency would continue to keep tabs on the child until reaching the age of majority for the childs own protection.

[Norseman]

>>Snopes is not and never has been the repository of truth. Notice they conveniently leave out that the preceding numbers issued before Obama’s as well as the ones following it were all from Connecticut.<<

I’ve found snopes to be very useful when someone sends one of those “urban legend” sort of emails. Snopes usually has a very good discussion on what part is true and what part is false, often including some decent info on how the false parts got going in the first place.

And snopes explained the Connecticut part. You would expect all of the Connecticut applications to start with 042. Their explanation covered how Obama could have ended up with one due to a simple misreading of his application, or an easy-to-make type. It might not have happened, but it’s a decent explanation of how it could have happened.

We’ve got way better ways to go after Obama than this tin-foil-hat stuff that WND and Newsmax are alway so prone to pushing.

[MMaschin]

The problem with that theory, is that the zip code you suggest was misread (98164) is for SEATTLE WASHINGTON! But Obama was in HAWAII!

Obama was living in Hawaii with his grandparents in Hawaii. In Obama’s book, he even says that after going to live with his grandparents, he didn’t leave again until he went to Occidental.

Why wouldn’t he have his SSN sent to Hawaii?

[hoosiermama]

See my post above yours

[hoosiermama]

oops it's 169

We know of some strange people in the home....the older sis/brother. Could someone have been sexually abusing him even then?

[Brown Deer]

And snopes explained the Connecticut part.

Really? they did?

Snopes: Barack Obama's parents separated when he was two years old, his father moving to Connecticut to continue his education before returning to Kenya. When the younger Obama was six years old, his mother married again, this time to Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian oil manager.

When was his father living in Connecticut? and how hold was little Barry, in March of 1965 when Stanley Ann married Lolo?

We’ve got way better ways to go than this tin-foil-hat stuff that SNOPES is alway so prone to pushing!

[Norseman]

>>The problem with that theory, is that the zip code you suggest was misread (98164) is for SEATTLE WASHINGTON! But Obama was in HAWAII!<<

Look, I made up the last four numbers, as I tried to explain...I didn’t go back to Snopes to get the exact numbers they cited. The point is that changing the 9 to a 0 would have the effect of changing the Hawaii zip to a CN zip.

Occam’s Razor, this simplest explanation is often best. Simple human error could easily explain his SS# appearing to indicate that he registered from a CN address. This doesn’t mean that I accept his birth certificate, or that he’s some sort of genius, or that there isn’t some nefarious reason for not revealing his past records, etc., but I suspect the CN ss# is legit.

[justiceseeker93]

If you remember BO spent some time at a Catholic run school in Indonesia, If he was removed from the home due to abuse or other circumstances it is conceivable that the church was involved. SIster of Poor Claire or Nuns affiliated with St Joe of Assisi probably have an office or affiliate in CONN.

When a custodial parent is no longer seen as fit by the authorities the other biological parent is called into court (May be the reason for Srs visit at age ten...family matters IIRC was given as the reason)

If custody/guardianship is awarded to another family member the agency would continue to keep tabs on the child until reaching the age of majority for the childs own protection.

You are attempting to apply American standards in handling child abuse problems to Indonesia, a predominantly Muslim country. That's like trying to put a round peg in a square hole. Indonesia wouldn't intervene in such situations, especially when the stepfather is a Muslim. Thus it's impossible for me to find any plausibility to your speculation.

[Exmil_UK]

That's just unrealistic. A mistake in a three digit prefix?

The mailing address of the applicant [in the 1970’s and before] had to be in the geographical area covered by the prefix.

The application has the mailing address of Obama the applicant, in Hawaii, and you are saying the application teleported to the US East Coast 6000 Miles away, and the SSN office then misread his address as being a valid Connecticut address and gave him the 042 prefix??

But of course, Obama is *special* he has a two-digit date stamp, incorrectly positioned, on his claimed Selective service card when everyone else has a four-digit date stamp.

Then Obama has a PDF “birth certificate” with a key verifying feature, the Registrar's stamp, *perfectly* isolated in a separate PDF layer such that the thing can be clicked on and moved around on the open document in the Adobe Illustrator software application? [Adobe is the company that created the PDF format]

That makes no sense. Its actually clear that Obama has a citizenship problem that had to be fixed. Not a NBC issue, but a full bore, heavy caliber *basic US Citizenship issue.*

[Norseman]

>>And snopes explained the Connecticut part.

Really? they did? <<

Yes, they did. Snopes.com apparently doesn’t enable one to cut and paste, but go to the site and search using the terms “Obama Connecticut Social Security Number” and read the first article (the one about his using an 1890 number). The last paragraph covers what I’ve tried to describe here. It could have easily been due to a simple typo or poor handwriting on a written form.

[Brown Deer]

and if what he said was true, then why wouldn’t 0bama have an SSN from New Jersey? ;-)

[Norseman]

>>That’s just unrealistic. A mistake in a three digit prefix?
The mailing address of the applicant [in the 1970’s and before] had to be in the geographical area covered by the prefix.<<

No, it’s not unrealistic. That’s the point. Go to snopes, as I suggest in the one of the posts just above this one and learn. Once you’ve learned, you’ll see that it’s not unrealistic at all. It’s a really simple explanation as to how Obama could have easily ended up with a CN prefix to his SS number. Doesn’t mean it’s right, but it’s certainly possible.

There’s a lot that bothers me about our President’s past, but I think on this one people are reaching for some very unlikely straws, and refusing to look objectively at the real situation.