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To: dagogo redux

May I ask you and your wife, then? What were you (and your colleagues) thinking when this bill was being written/ passed? Not to blame, right? But I watched and listened carefully to see who was on my side, hating this bill. I saw that the AMA was PRO Obamacare, but I did not observe medical folks in any field speaking out. I think it would help the public. We love our docs and we respect you. Speak out/ lend a voice/ tell us why YOU hate it. Make a big noise. Take out ads. Rent billboards. Let the Truth come out.

And don’t just bail and leave us with crummy third-world educated doctors, please. It might seem right to you, but what about We the Patients?


30 posted on 07/05/2012 4:38:53 PM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: bboop
The AMA is like the AARP........

And extremely liberal group that has hijacked those that pay dues.

32 posted on 07/05/2012 4:52:23 PM PDT by Osage Orange (8675309)
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To: bboop

My subspecialty organization, the American Gastroenterologic Association, are major donors to Harry Reid and Patty Murray. It’s like union dues being given away to pro union Democrats.


34 posted on 07/05/2012 5:24:47 PM PDT by JusPasenThru (HEY UNION MEMBER: INVEST IN YOUR OWN DAMN INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A CHANGE!)
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To: bboop

Oh, pack it, buddy. I made plenty of noise to many movers and shakers. Like most docs, I don’t belong to the AMA.

As for “we the Patients,” very few really value what doctors have to offer. The majority - and “The Greatest Generation” is as bad as every other - believe free health care, and my participation in it, is their inalienable right. Self absorption and entitlement rule in this country. In my current private practice, for instance, a great many have vacation homes, and very nice recent model cars, and go on a cruise or two each year, or a few weekends or weeks at Vail each winter, or a week at Disneyland with their kids every summer - and yet, they don’t want to pay co-pays for my services or their meds; they demand not only that I prescribe meds for them but that I am obligated to get them an endless supply of free samples; they demand that I not only diagnose and treat, but once I get them well they still demand that I have to write letters and fill out endless forms for free to get them time off work, some special companion animal, disability, or forgiveness of student loans, etc, etc, etc.

Did I mention “etc”?

In other, less affluent settings, I might treat, for instance, someone’s severely suicidal depression, but they don’t want to take life-saving meds because of some very minor side effect, or because - unlike the cocaine or marijuana or alcohol they pay significantly for and consume in sizable quantity - the meds are not “natural” and a $9 co-pay is a pharmaceutical company rip off.

My wife, working in the ER, is even more burned out with the population she sees now, even though it’s better than some other ones she’s worked with. Ungrateful, entitled, demanding. She’s constantly fearful of complaints and threats to her job and license should she not give in their demands, and the patients know it, and treat her accordingly. I know it too. Both she and I practice good medicine with all comers, and both she and I have had formal complaints against our licenses with our state boards - frivolous stuff, and neither of us have had any complaints that stuck, but there’s the hell of a several year investigation, and the need to hire attorneys, and the fact that the complaint, even if found totally groundless and dismissed, becomes a permanent part of our record which we then have to defend when we change jobs or get a license in a new state.

“Let the Truth come out.” You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth. My wife grew up in Third World poverty, idealizing the people of this country - she’s appalled by them. I went through my Rat Year at VMI, boot camp, and combat - yet my rotations in medical school, and especially my internal medicine internship, were many times more brutal and scarring than any of that. And for what? So people can demand I prescribe some Xanax to cushion the crashes after each ecstasy-filled Rave they attend, or so I can listen to threats against my license from parents incensed that I won’t fill out a four page form so their juvenile 28 year old borderline can have a ferret “companion animal” accompany her to her parole hearings, or so some sociopath, who scammed the system in order to serve his eighteen year prison term instead on a cushy forensic unit, could badly assault me, then file a complaint against my license via his patient advocate, saying I deserved the assault?

I think not. “You the People” can probably become doctors in a few weeks training under the new Federal healthcare system, and then YOU can erect billboards, and then YOU can put up with the entitlement society. YOU do it, buddy. Not me.


44 posted on 07/05/2012 8:11:49 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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