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To: Waryone

It is always “they” that does the things not popular around here with some. Mostly this “they” is just a paranoid fantasy to explain the Right’s complete inability to break out of the 25-30% range of support which it typically attracts.

Palin could have been the nominee but the personal price to her family would have been too high for her to accept. Then after Perry shot himself in the foot repeatedly there was NO conservative capable of beating Romney. Outside of a small group he has never been terribly popular but has been a competent politician capable of winning elections and build support for other Republicans. For some really weird reason (which you may figure out someday) a politician capable of winning almost always beats those who are NOT. No “they” need apply.

Apparently you also labor under some unrealistic view that a candidate in the primary campaigns against his opponent in the General election. Have you forgotten that even Reagan had to win primaries and he had to go after his opponents IN THE PRIMARY first? Nor was there any need for Romney to lie about his opponents, all had sufficient weaknesses, misstatements, baggage and blunders to lose without much help from Mitt.

And, speaking of BS, any claim that MR spent the McCain campaign (or any other time) attacking Sarah is sheer and total BS.

Your fantasy extends to the heights with the idea that Palin would have been able to campaign without senseless attacks on her from the Right. We saw it here before she definitively ruled out running just as we saw it with all the others.

All except the most unrealistic candidate, Cain, were called “liberals”, “socialists” etc., the same kind of crap you are spreading about MR.

And claiming that Romney has control of the media is hilariously hysterical. Are you from DU? That statement would find near-unanimous agreement over there.


50 posted on 07/07/2012 12:49:26 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: arrogantsob
"Palin could have been the nominee but the personal price to her family would have been too high for her to accept."

On this I agree with you. But the reason the personal price to her family would have been too high has a name. It is Mitt Romney. He and his flying monkeys made sure that would be the case and they started the trashing of Palin and her family the minute Palin became the VP nominee. (The job he so desperately wanted.)

"Outside of a small group he has never been terribly popular but has been a competent politician capable of winning elections and build support for other Republicans."

As for being a competent politician, he has only won one election, governor of Massachusetts. But he lost his run for the senate before that and he knew he would lose if he ran for a second term in Massachusetts. He had already destroyed the republican party in that state. So he had no base to run on. There were three republican governors immediately before him. After him, who know how long it will be or if the republicans will ever recover from his lying to republicans and pandering to the socialists.

Romney builds support by passing out cash and influence, the same old fashioned way the liberal democrats have been doing it for years. So you believe the fact that he can behave like a liberal democrat is supposed to impress conservatives? LOL!

"Apparently you also labor under some unrealistic view that a candidate in the primary campaigns against his opponent in the General election. Have you forgotten that even Reagan had to win primaries and he had to go after his opponents IN THE PRIMARY first?"

Hey guess what? Reagan knew how to run against both. How? By having conservative principles. You knew exactly where Reagan stood against both the primary opponents and the general election opponents. He didn't have to fool people into thinking he was waiting for the convention to run against Jimmy Carter. There was no thought of talk about him duplicating anything Carter did. Not so with Mitt. With both sides of his mouth, he does almost nothing to contrast himself with the general election candidate. Even though he has made it through the primaries.

"And, speaking of BS, any claim that MR spent the McCain campaign (or any other time) attacking Sarah is sheer and total BS."

So you don't remember the RINOs attack against Palin? Where were you then and where have you been hiding lately? From day one, they went after her. If that self centered socialist had been more interested in conservatives winning, he could called off his flying monkey attacks. But no he wanted to run in 2012, so he did two things. He convinced the RINOs that RINO McCain's campaign did not need to push to win and that Palin wasn't allowed to run the race for him. If that meant they had to do all they could to destroy her and her family, they tried it. McCain had to lose if Romney was to have any chance to ever become president. If McCain had won, it would have been at least 12 years until he would have another chance (4 years of McCain and 8 years of Palin). Romney could not have that, he would have been getting too old to run.

"Your fantasy extends to the heights with the idea that Palin would have been able to campaign without senseless attacks on her from the Right. We saw it here before she definitively ruled out running just as we saw it with all the others."

I don't know that there were many senseless attacks from the right. There were a few, but they were almost silent during the 2008 election. Most of the people claiming to be on the right who have attacked Palin are either RINOs who claim to be conservatives just like Mitt does or people who similar to Ann Coulter, worship the ground Mitt walks on.

It was so obvious. Whenever Palin was attacked by anyone on the left, with every filthy lie they imagined, there was dead silence from the elites, RINOs and establishment in the GOP that Romney happens to keep in his pocket. How can I say that they were in his pocket? Even before one primary had occurred, all we heard from the GOP-E was that we had to get behind Mitt now because he was the only candidate who could win. Even when he wasn't leading when he wasn't even in second place. They "the GOP-e, elites, establishment, RINOs and other republican socialists" kept up that mantra throughout the primaries.

"Nor was there any need for Romney to lie about his opponents, all had sufficient weaknesses, misstatements, baggage and blunders to lose without much help from Mitt."

If Romney's mouth is moving there is a lie coming out of it somewhere. Not only did he lie but rules were changed and outcomes were fixed to favor him.

Obviously you don't' live in Florida. Every ten minutes another TV ad lie out of Mitt's filthy "I approve of this message," mouth or one of his huge PACs spewing lies and misrepresentations. Here in Florida, when Mitt's opponents wanted to get air time to refute his lies, some stations refused. You many wonder why? But as a Florida resident, I know the number of RINOs in this state. Many of them call themselves conservatives. We have a couple of very famous ones such as Charlie Crist. Just like Romney, he called himself a conservative for many years. But we all know better now. Don't we.

As for dreaming up lies, anyone who claims that Romney is not a socialist is either a liar, delusional or deceived. Mitt is the father and originator of Obamacare, the father of gay marriage in the United States, anti-gun, anti-family, anti-Boy Scouts, lover of ENDA, lover of gay adoption, lover gays in the military and lover of wanting gays as Boy Scout leaders, lover of cap and trade, giving free cars and auto insurance to welfare recipients, lover of taxation (that he names fees), lover and expander of big government and its having power over "we the people," willing to abrogate our 2nd Amendment rights to keep and bear arms, trashing conservatives, including Ronald Reagan even today. This is the man who named two gays as parents of the year in Massachusetts, appointed flaming liberals to the courts every chance he got, forced church organizations to set up adoptions for gays or leave the state, showed no respect for the freedom of religion in Mass or for anything or anyone conservative for that matter.

Everything Obama has attempted to do nationally, Romney has already accomplished in Massachusetts. If he had a (D) next to his name, the democrats would worship him as the most accomplished leader in their democratic party. No one else could touch him with all his liberal accomplishments. But you can't see he's a socialist because the big fat (R) next to his name has blinded you.

The only one claiming Romney controls the all media is you. He can’t control what he can’t lie or buy. Did the Corleone’s control all the media? No, like Romney, they only controlled the ones they’d bought.

53 posted on 07/07/2012 3:11:28 PM PDT by Waryone
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