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1 posted on 07/09/2012 3:21:19 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Uncle Slayton

Prayer can cure cancer, leprosy, depression, addiction, and a thousand other medical and psychological problems, but it’s no match for political correctness? From just reading the Bible, I would not have guessed at that limitation.


2 posted on 07/09/2012 3:26:57 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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It can be cured by arresting fags who solicit youngsters...whether in church, sport camps, boy scouts...They need to be segregated OUT...not promoted.


3 posted on 07/09/2012 3:32:14 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Uncle Slayton

Being “Born Again” is key—just like the Scriptures indicate.


4 posted on 07/09/2012 3:34:27 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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he’s giving up. Next thing we will hear is he is back in the gay life


6 posted on 07/09/2012 3:40:23 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Uncle Slayton

Rarely do we completely conquer our struggles with sin. Many of us fight within ourselves for years. Anger, lust, gluttony, pride, everyone has inner battles.

Prayer is a powerful and necessary tool. So is staying in the word. Accountability, etc.


8 posted on 07/09/2012 4:01:39 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Uncle Slayton
Jesus can release us from ANY type of bondage - that does not mean we will not still be tempted.
I was released from the bondage of alcohol (Jim Beam mainly, or anything else would do in a pinch) - that does not mean that it doesn't still attract me sometimes - I just choose not to indulge.

The apostle Paul wrestled with something (never stated what it was exactly), and prayed Jesus would "cure" him - Jesus just replied that His strength is made perfect in (our) weakness (whatever that particular weakness might be.) (2 Corinthians 12:7-9)

Alan Chambers praises God for releasing him from the bondage of homosexuality, although it may still remain as a "thorn in his side".
Perhaps Exodus is just trying to make sure they don't mislead someone into thinking that if they just pray hard enough they will be "cured".
Could Jesus do that? Sure, He can do anything - but His ways are way beyong our understanding.

And for someone that may think Alan's particular "thing" is worse than whatever "thing" they may struggle with, (heroin, pornography, gossip, etc.) remember: "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (not just "homos").

9 posted on 07/09/2012 4:09:49 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Uncle Slayton

Electroshock therapy is used successfully in China.


12 posted on 07/09/2012 4:34:34 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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Unfortunately, this is now the state of affairs: Only ONE view is acceptable regarding homosexuality: It is to be embraced and celebrated.

Any attempt to “cure” or counsel is deemed abusive. The Senate Bill preparing to pass in CA states that no therapist may discourage a minor from homosexual identity. The New Civil Rights in America group has called PFOX (a group which offers hope for change to young gays) a group of “child predators”.


14 posted on 07/09/2012 5:05:24 PM PDT by scottjewell
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This article was full of overreach. All he did was compare homosexuality to other vices, by saying that homosexual urges cannot be eliminated entirely, but must be a struggled against.

Think alcoholism. Is an alcoholic ever cured? Most would say “no”, even after decades of abstinence.

So all he really said is that temptation cannot be “cured” with prayer, but only resisted with prayer. Is that so wrong?

But those opposed to even trying jump all over this to say things he didn’t say. He didn’t renounce trying to resist homosexual urges through prayer. But they want to pretend he said that.


16 posted on 07/09/2012 5:26:48 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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But the organisation's president Alan Chambers...said: "I do not believe that 'cure' is a word that is applicable to really any struggle, homosexuality included."

That's the key message. A homosexual person will (probably)always live with homosexual temptation, just like everybody else lives with whatever their particular temptation is. And when I say "lives with," I mean "struggles with."

Yet homosexual persons, like all the rest of us, can overcome objectively bad behavior.

I may be an alcoholic. It may be a lifelong temptation, but I can learn to abstain from alcohol.

I may be a scolder, with a sharp tongue and a short temper. But I can learn to abstain from assailing people verbally.

I may be an emotional eater, a glutton. But I can learn to abstain from overeating.

Homosexuality is in some ways like every other wayward drive. You recognize that it's a problem area, you don't justify it, you don't indulge it. With God's help, you gain insight into your weaknesses, you cultivate habits of virtue, you confess your faults, you avoid "near occasions of sin", you resist temptation,.

You strive to live with a pure mind and love with a pure heart.

This applies to everybody, not just the 1-3% who have the homosexual label.

17 posted on 07/09/2012 5:36:07 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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