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To: Nifster
that’s right but noly if the government is at war with us. Are you suggestung that the government has decided to kill citizens on its own soil that have done nothing? I think not. A muslim terroist gets what he deserves. If you equate me with that shame on you. Your logic leads to pacifism... we shouldn’t hurt anyone

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I don't think I equated you to anything, you took offense to my post.

As far as the rest...I don't trust our government. I want our government to stay within the constitution and I believe they are starting to push the envelope. That isn't pacifism, that is treating government with suspicion.

FBI Director Mueller unclear on targeted killing rule within the US

Senator Rand Paul: I am concerned about one person deciding the life or death of not only foreigners but U.S. citizens around the world. And the chance that one person could make a mistake, you know, is a possibility. So having the president decide who he's going to kill concerns me. I would rather it go through a court, and there are actually secret courts, the FISA court investigates intelligence information. And most of these decisions aren't made like this. They make the decision over weeks and months. They target people and go after them. I see no reason why there couldn't be some sort of court preceding, even a secret court preceding, to allow some protection. I mean even in the United States where we have the best due process probably in the world, we have probably executed people wrongfully for the death penalty. They have found out through DNA testing, many people on death row are there inaccurately. And even Republicans have pulled back their beliefs some on death penalty. So I think when we decide to kill someone, that's obviously the ultimate punishment. We need to be very, very certain that what we're doing is not in error.

41 posted on 07/09/2012 8:23:05 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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“FBI Director Robert Mueller on Wednesday said he would have to go back and check with the Department of Justice whether Attorney General Eric Holder’s “three criteria” for the targeted killing of Americans also applied to Americans inside the U.S.

Pressed by House lawmakers about a recent speech in which Holder described the legal justification for assassination, Mueller, who was attending a hearing on his agency’s budget, did not say without qualification that the three criteria could not be applied inside the U.S.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/07/mueller-have-to-check-with-holder-whether-targeted-killing-rule-is-outside-us/

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1496349721001/fbi-unclear-on-targeted-killing-rule-within-us/


42 posted on 07/09/2012 8:59:42 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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