Posted on 07/09/2012 7:07:43 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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Feel free to discuss the pros and cons. The better educated we are about the propositions, the better we can advocate for a proposition's passage or defeat.
Proposition 32 deals with contributions by unions and corporations.
Web site here: http://stopspecialinterestmoney.org
Sounds good or hidden pitfalls we should be aware of?
sounds like ballot hell
And our Governor Moonbeam and his co-horts pushed a lot of these onto the November ballot, instead of the June ballot.
Yep, and if the peasants don't vote the way they are supposed to, the courts will overturn the new laws.
Summary Date: 12/28/11 | Failed: 06/12/12
Proponent: B.C. Keith
Requires that each Assembly district and each Senate district have two elected representatives, one male and one female, doubling the number of state legislators. Summary of estimate by Legislative Analyst and Director of Finance of fiscal impact on state and local government: Potential increase in county election costs in the range of millions of dollars every two years. (11-0069)
Vote NO on 30; “Dirty Thirty”. This is the massive Tax increase Moonbeam needs to keep the state afloat and to pay for the Browndoggle railway from nowehere TO nowehere.
If anyone has verification of a “temporary” tax in CA actually terminating, since statehood, please post it.
Suggest all Californicate residents pull a Food Stamp President ..... vote present, then pack up and leave.
http://www.boe.ca.gov/news/pdf/jun11tib.pdf
Effective July 1, 2011, the combined statewide sales and use tax rate will decrease from 8.25 percent to 7.25 percent. The temporary one percent tax increase implemented in April 2009 expires on June 30, 2011. Please check our website for a listing of the new tax rates.
what happens if both gerry brown and the munger tax increase pass? do they then both apply? taxes go up to 17%?
This is the "Paycheck Protection" proposition and it MUST PASS.
The combined government employee unions are going to mass their member's money to fight this proposition. They know that if this proposition passes, their money tap will be shut.
SHUT THE MONEY TAP!
Please, please, please, please, please, I beg you please to donate anything you can spare to the yes on 32 campaign and help us pass Prop 32. They commie libs are going to spend a warchest to defeat Prop 32. They know that their stranglehold on California will be almost nullified. Hundreds of millions of dollars in guaranteed, extorted union money is how they have been able to buy politicians to give them perks.
I have seen an avalanche of criticism on this forum about state worker pay and pensions. Now is your chance to do something about it. Contribute to Prop 32 Paycheck Protection.
For my part, I am a Caltrans engineer. So I work for the California state DOT. For my entire career, my union has been extorting my dues and handing it to the Democrat challenger to win election after election. PLEASE help me out and all of the rest of the state employees who are Republican or conservative and are equally disgusted at having hour millions upon million in union dues stolen and handed to the Democrats.
I beg you to donate to the yes on 32 campaign. The Democrats still get to use ALL that union money in this election and amass it they will, do DEFEAT Prop 32. Please donate anything you can spare. We HAVE TO win this. California is probably doomed anyway, but starve the beast of this multi-hundred million dollar guaranteed source of political funding and you will go a long, long way to hamstringing the California Democratic party statewide.
I am begging you.
With any luck, the next election will feature a propostion to STOP the high speed rail train project. It didn’t make it in time for 2012. That is going to be a very critical vote.
Right now the high speed rail train is unpopular. Most Californians are now on to the lies that it would cost $30 billion and be ready by 2020. They now know it will cost way north of $100 billion and won’t be in service for decades.
Being California I'm surprised the initiative didn't also require each district to add a lesbian, a male homosexual, a bisexual, a transgendered freak, a black, a hispanic, a Pacific islander, an Asian, a couple of midgets, a Death Row murderer, a representative from NAMBLA, a wild-card appointee by Larry Flynt and a couple of necrophiliacs, for starters.
no provisions for job growth, so higher taxes, less people working, sounds just communistic.
Why won’t they let us vote on that stupid train?
Any of the following can be immediately identified, and a resounding NO! quickly determined:
Who initiated it? Who funds it?
Teachers or their Union?
Public employees or their union?
Concerned (fill in the blank)?
Welfare related groups?
Guaranteed budget funding for any agency or special interest group shall not be permitted; all existing such programs repealed.
Who claims "priority" over all else?
"Safety" employees? Government employees or bureaucrats at any level of government?
"Compliance" Agencies?
Borrowing or sales of new bonds for any purpose shall not be permitted until budget priorities have been defined, with no increases in any state taxes, fees or service charges.
To summarize.
NO on all new taxes, fees or bond sales.
YES on the elimination of all non-essential State agencies.
Prop 32 is the only one that makes any common sense.
I lived in California almost all my life until last year, had enough of the nonsense and left. I still have friends and family there, and for their sakes there is part of me that hopes things get better BUT there is a part of me that thinks the voters of California need to be punished for their repeated, flagrant stupidity as well.
I almost want the liberals to get everything they want, and I don’t want the conservatives to save them anymore. Republicans have been bailing out California every time it goes to the brink. No more, let them fail. And most importantly, I do NOT want the federal government to bail out that state.
Nothing makes me more irritated that having government claim to add “a penny” , a 1/4 penny, etc., on sales taxes. If you have a 4% sales tax, a “penny” is a 25% increase. Of course, a good part of the electorate is stupid, and they, of course, know this.
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