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To: EternalVigilance

The lampshade makers were not guilty of murder, were they?

How far do you want to carry your line of thinking? By your way, those death camp Jews who were forced to bury or to carry the bodies of their fellow Jews to ovens for disposal were also complicit in their deaths?


77 posted on 07/11/2012 9:00:06 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Clara Lou
By your way, those death camp Jews who were forced to bury or to carry the bodies of their fellow Jews to ovens for disposal were also complicit in their deaths?

Surely you don't think someone put a gun to Romney's head to invest $75 million in Stericycle, or to take the $50 million in profits.

82 posted on 07/11/2012 9:03:12 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (If you've surrendered your principles out of fear of Obama you've already lost. TomHoefling.com)
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To: Clara Lou; BlatherNaut; Jim Robinson; EternalVigilance; GailA; RitaOK; Dr. Sivana; Finny; svcw; ...
Your #77 is shameful.

I had the privilege of becoming acquainted with a very elderly Jewish man from Poland who, as a teenager, was arrested by the Nazis, taken to Auschwitz, and, since he was very strong, required to dig graves until Auschwitz was liberated. He candidly but modestly discussed his experiences with me at the home of his daughter whose husband was a close friend of mine.

For your edification, there is a substantial moral distinction between that now deceased gentleman being credibly ordered to dispose of the bodies of his fellow Jews whose only imagined crime was to have been born Jewish (therefore relatives of Abraham but also of Mary and Jesus Christ) or be promptly murdered himself and Mittler lusting over profits to be made quite voluntarily from investments in a baby-disposal service like Stericycle.

Blathernaut:

"Parallels" you have drawn trying to justify Mittler by comparing his "conversion" to pro-life with Norma McCorvey and Dr. Bernard Nathanson are pathetic.

Dr. Bernard Nathanson had been a long time board member of the National Abortion Rights Action League under the infamous Lawrence Lader. He began to waver as to that group when it occurred to him that to listen to Lader on the subject of Catholics was undoubtedly akin to listening to Hitler talk about Dr. Nathanson's fellow Jews. He resigned from NARAL despite having a very lucrative abortion business in New York City. He was then invited by a colleague to witness a second trimester abortion at Bellevue Hospital. What he saw convinced Dr. Nathanson that the second trimester infant victim was alive, aware and had fought against an amniocentesis needle as a threat. Making logical conclusions, he determined to abandon abortion as a way of life. He and his wife Adele created the Bernadele Foundation with the proceeds of the sale of his business interests in the abortion operations. Bernadele Foundation is exclusively devoted to supporting the pro-life cause. He then became a Christian and finally a Roman Catholic. He has died and cannot tell you anything directly other than in his books and films like Silent Scream. Did Romney return the profits he made from the dead babies or devote the money to pro-life causes??? Did he ever stop lying about abortion for a moment in his somewhat adult life? Of course not.

As to Norma McCorvey, nice try trashing her. She was taken advantage of by Sarah Weddington, a pro-abort "cause" attorney who apparently required her, as a condition of representing her as to a child custody dispute with McCorvey's mother over Norma's child, to allow the bringing of a legal action against Henry Wade, a prosecutorial county attorney, based upon a false affidavit, which became "Roe vs. Wade" and which challenged Texas's irrationally liberal abortion statutes (allowing very early abortions while prohibiting later ones. Yale Law Professor Thomas Emerson (responsible for Griswold vs. Connecticut) joined up later. Miss Norma was a sorry mess of a human being, a terrible mother, an itinerant carnival worker, and dead broke but she was about to be used by some pretty classy legal help successfully seeking to make baby murder a national norm particularly for the peasants but also for embarrassed Junior Leaguers (an idea that thrilled Clan Romney and their ilk). A lady named Sara Scorvino, trying to obtain effective legal help to collect substantial back child support was being likewise used by unscrupulous counsel in Georgia. Fast forward: Miss Norma becomes involved in a lesbian affair with the boss of a Texas Planned Barrenhood abortion mill who employs her there; is treated with respect and kindness by anti-abortion protestor Rev. Mr. Flip Benham; ponders the emptiness of local playgrounds, blames herself, comes out as a pro-lifer and remains so decades later. Norma McCorvey, Sara Scorvino and the two daughters that they had unsuccessfully sued to abort ALL wound up as activists in Operation Rescue which took a bit more Moxie than Governor Etch-a-Sketch had to have to test he wind currents and lie to us all.

Am I unfair to Romney in calling him a liar??? Other than his well-deserved reputation as the most accomplished liar in American public life on practically everything, there are the circumstances of his "conversion" to pro-life and his subsequent behavior. He CLAIMS to have been "converted" when having to ponder the question of permitting and funding embryonic stem cell research as governor. If so, he was probably the only "convert" as a result of that nuance of the abortion issue ever discovered. Though opposing embryonic stem cell research is certainly the pro-life position, viewed purely as an issue it was a loser though principled people will take losses for principle. That was late 2004. TWO YEARS LATER in 2006, Mittler was conniving successfully with Ted Kennedy and others to create Romneycare, complete with a maximum charge for abortion of $50 (subsequently to become FREE!!!! under successor Coupe DeVille) and Planned Barrenhood permanently on its board to protect its victory.

TO BOTH OF YOU (Clara Lou and Blathernaut) and any other Mittler or Obozo pom pom girls:

The lampshade makers were guilty of murder if they were not coerced. Likewise, BOTH Romney voters and Obozo will be similarly guilty for their uncoerced decision to materially cooperate with either of the abortionists currently expected to be nominated by the major parties. Both of these despicable leftist candidates are enthusiasts for persecution of pro-life churches and their ministries and enthusiastic cheerleaders for fudge-packing and other disorders posing as "marriage."

156 posted on 07/11/2012 1:06:06 PM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Tom Hoefling for POTUS! Viva Cristo Rey!)
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