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Tree-rings prove climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval times ...
DailyMail ^ | July 11, 2012 | Rob Waugh

Posted on 07/11/2012 11:26:01 AM PDT by bobsunshine

Rings in fossilised pine trees have proven that the world was much warmer than previously thought - and the earth has been slowly COOLING for 2,000 years.

Measurements stretching back to 138BC prove that the Earth is slowly cooling due to changes in the distance between the Earth and the sun.

The finding may force scientists to rethink current theories of the impact of global warming.

It is the first time that researchers have been able to accurately measure trends in global temperature over the last two millennia.

Over that time, the world has been getting cooler - and previous estimates, used as the basis for current climate science, are wrong.

Their findings demonstrate that this trend involves a cooling of -0.3°C per millennium due to gradual changes to the position of the sun and an increase in the distance between the Earth and the sun.

‘This figure we calculated may not seem particularly significant,’ says Esper, ‘however, it is also not negligible when compared to global warming, which up to now has been less than 1°C.

'Our results suggest that the large-scale climate reconstruction shown by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) likely underestimate this long-term cooling trend over the past few millennia.’

The finding was based on semi-fossilised tree rings found in Finnish lapland.

Professor Dr. Jan Esper's group at the Institute of Geography at JGU used tree-ring density measurements from sub-fossil pine trees originating from Finnish Lapland to produce a reconstruction reaching back to 138 BC.

In so doing, the researchers have been able for the first time to precisely demonstrate that the long-term trend over the past two millennia has been towards climatic cooling.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; duplicate; globalwarming; gore
Oh well, I assume Congress will stop proposing Climate Change law. NOT !!
1 posted on 07/11/2012 11:26:10 AM PDT by bobsunshine
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To: bobsunshine

Any thoughts, Al?


2 posted on 07/11/2012 11:34:43 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone ('We the People' can and will take this country back...starting today.)
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To: bobsunshine

Global warming was occurring in Roman times, with the root cause being that Rome was burning.

Similar reasons for today’s globull warming...


3 posted on 07/11/2012 11:41:23 AM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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They must’ve had some really “polluting” engines on those chariots of theirs.


4 posted on 07/11/2012 11:43:16 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: bobsunshine

Horse poop?


5 posted on 07/11/2012 11:46:23 AM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the StatistI)
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To: MichaelCorleone
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6 posted on 07/11/2012 11:50:58 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: bobsunshine
Another factor to be considered is that Earth is moving away from the Sun because Earth’s mass is steadily increasing.

From Steve Jones’ “Darwin’s Ghost,” a modern rewrite of Darwin’s “Origin,” we have: “A trillion comets orbit the sun. The gravel that surrounds them appears, should it hit our atmosphere, as a shower of meteors. The Earth gains a ton in weight every hour from their dust.”

7 posted on 07/11/2012 11:55:11 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: C210N

I have heard that very statement from some AGW people.


8 posted on 07/11/2012 11:55:55 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: bobsunshine

Big ‘ol bookmark!


9 posted on 07/11/2012 12:26:36 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: bobsunshine

It HAD to be warmer back then. That’s why everyone was wearing togas!..................


10 posted on 07/11/2012 12:28:49 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: bobsunshine

This is a newspapert article that does not cite the original scientific study- a little odd not being able to access the data, methodology etc. Also what is JGU. I assume a University but which one? This could be a set up. Tree ring data is what the “hockey stick” graphic was all about.


11 posted on 07/11/2012 12:47:46 PM PDT by rem_mitchell
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Thanks for your skepticism. The story (well not the story but the methodology) is bogus. I refer you to this link:

Trees don’t represent temperature and half a year doesn’t represent an annual record.

Junk science is junk science, whether its them or us.

12 posted on 07/11/2012 1:00:42 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave

I was a little bit afraid of that. Always the threat of lots of folks jumping on the bandwagon just to be discredited. Thanks for the heads up.


13 posted on 07/11/2012 1:03:28 PM PDT by rem_mitchell
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