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Report: Thousands fled Canada for health care in 2011
Daily Caller ^ | 7/11/12 | Michael Bastasch

Posted on 07/11/2012 12:43:08 PM PDT by Nachum

A Canadian study released Wednesday found that many provinces in our neighbor to the North have seen patients fleeing the country and opting for medical treatment in the United States.

The nonpartisan Fraser Institute reported that 46,159 Canadians sought medical treatment outside of Canada in 2011, as wait times increased 104 percent — more than double — compared with statistics from 1993.

Specialist physicians surveyed across 12 specialties and 10 provinces reported an average total wait time of 19 weeks between the time a general practitioner refers a patient and the time a specialist provides elective treatment — the longest they have ever recorded.

In 2011, Canadians enrolled in the nation’s government-dominated health service waited long periods of time for an estimated 941,321 procedures. As many as 2.8 percent of Canadians were waiting for treatment at any given time, according to the Institute.

“In some cases, these patients needed to leave Canada due to a lack of available resources or a lack of appropriate procedure/technology,” according to the Institute. “In others, their departure will have been driven by a desire to return more quickly to their lives, to seek out superior quality care, or perhaps to save their own lives or avoid the risk of disability.”

Increases in the number of patients leaving Canada for treatment were seen in seven of the ten Canadian provinces: British Columbia, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, and Newfoundland and Labrador.

“Some of these patients will have been sent out of country by the public health care system due to a lack of available resources or the fact that some procedures or equipment are not provided in their home jurisdiction,” the report concluded.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; canadahealthcare; fled; healthcare; obamacarefuture
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1 posted on 07/11/2012 12:43:20 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

And to think that those who passed Obamacare will not have to be subjected to it.

How elitist can those congresscritters get.


2 posted on 07/11/2012 12:47:59 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG

when everyone has healthcare, no one has it.


3 posted on 07/11/2012 12:50:48 PM PDT by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: Nachum

Where will the Canadians go when US wait times are worse than in Canada?


4 posted on 07/11/2012 12:51:56 PM PDT by JTHomes (A lot of injustice is done under the cover of law.)
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To: JTHomes

Wealthy folks who pay cash will go to boutique medical facilities in the Caribbean, especially when Dr visits can be combined with tourism.

You’ll see branches of Mayo Clinic, Johns Hopkins, etc setting up in whatever country gives them the best deal.

It will become a thriving business.
Young physicians should be looking at this as a tremendous business opportunity.


5 posted on 07/11/2012 12:55:59 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Nachum

Socialism is not about achieving effective results, it is about government power. The results do not matter, only the promises.


6 posted on 07/11/2012 12:58:32 PM PDT by GregoTX (Federalist)
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To: JTHomes
Where will the Canadians go when US wait times are worse than in Canada?

Michael Moore recommends Cuba. He thinks the healthcare provided there is terrific.
7 posted on 07/11/2012 12:59:29 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: nascarnation
You’ll see branches of Mayo Clinic, Johns Hopkins, etc setting up in whatever country gives them the best deal. It will become a thriving business. Young physicians should be looking at this as a tremendous business opportunity.

You can bet they will. It will be a good deal for them to renounce their US citizenship, move to a tax friendly country and set up shop. That will increase wait times here as new docs leave and old docs retire. Thanks Obamacare.

8 posted on 07/11/2012 1:04:42 PM PDT by JTHomes (A lot of injustice is done under the cover of law.)
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To: Signalman
Michael Moore recommends Cuba. He thinks the healthcare provided there is terrific.

He's right - the healthcare given to the Cuban Nomenklatura is top shelf.

9 posted on 07/11/2012 1:05:07 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: JTHomes

Beats me. I’ve been plagued with what I would have thought was a simple rash for six months and I get shuffled from doc to doc, with long waiting times between. Each looks at me for two minutes, writes a different prescription, pats me on the bum, and sends me on my way.

Last week I started seeing a Shaman (chinese doc/acupuncturist) and actually got what seemed like an intelligent diagnosis based on the symptoms, not the dogma. And it seems as if she might help. Too early yet to tell.

Of course, the other guys/gals were all “free” health care, whereas I have to pay for the “Shaman” myself.

This is the Canadian health care system. I’m in Calgary and would be considered in good health for a guy just turned 60 last weekend, other than fat and too much booze...

Please don’t go down this route.

Cheers,

Jim


10 posted on 07/11/2012 1:08:46 PM PDT by gymbeau (Free Tibet! (limit one per customer))
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To: Nachum

My mothers father said the choice was stay in the Maritimes and starve or get Yanktified and thrive. He also said when I asked him why did didn’t go back to canukistan to visit, his answer was, “F’m they know where I live.”


11 posted on 07/11/2012 1:09:12 PM PDT by Little Bill
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To: JTHomes

The only people acting surprised when this happens will be Democrats, LOL.


12 posted on 07/11/2012 1:11:23 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: gymbeau

Of course, I meant the health care route, not the too fat and too much booze route. I recommend it highly!!

Cheers,
Jim


13 posted on 07/11/2012 1:11:45 PM PDT by gymbeau (Free Tibet! (limit one per customer))
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To: Signalman

This is a dirty secret nobody seems to notice. Basically our current system props-up a lot of socialized healthcare systems around the world, notably Canada because its close by.

Today, if you live in France, England or Canada, you know that you always have an option to go to the US for a hip replacement or heart surgery and pay out of pocket if needed. At least you can get it fixed and not be dead!

For decades Canadians have come here for surgeries that they would have to wait years to get or never get at all in Canada. This ‘safety valve’ has prevented their system from collapsing completely. Once we go to rationing, they are as screwed as we are. The people will really start to notice how unworkable the system is.


14 posted on 07/11/2012 1:12:08 PM PDT by bigtoona
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To: JTHomes

“Where will the Canadians go when US wait times are worse than in Canada?”

The Affordable Care Act with its requirement for everyone to have a Patient Identity effectively prohibits foreigners from coming to the USA for treatment.


15 posted on 07/11/2012 1:15:33 PM PDT by MeganC (If you are hell-bent on delaying maturity you will likely succeed.)
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To: Signalman
Michael Moore recommends Cuba. He thinks the healthcare provided there is terrific.

Reports indicate that Moore went to Cuba about 5 years ago to have his stomach stapled.Now that he's down to a svelte 180 it's obvious they did a damn good job.

16 posted on 07/11/2012 1:17:20 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President Of My Lifetime)
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To: 353FMG
I think that we need another constitutional amendment. Something to the effect of the following:

Congress shall pass no law that grants its members benefits beyond that provided to citizens by other government programs.

Congress shall pass no law that grants its members a retirement program. All Congress members shall contribute to Social Security as is required of all U. S. citizens. The current congressional retirment program shall cease within two years of adoption of this amendment. No new members of Congress elected after the date of adoption of this amendment shall receive the current retirement program. Under the current retirement program, current retired members of Congress shall receive payment based on years of service (minimum of 10) and amount of contributions made by the member during service to Congress. In no case shall a retired person receive more than 30 percent of the congressperson's annual pay the last year of service.

Congressional pay shall not exceed the pay grade of a Colonel or equivalent in the U. S. military. A housing allowance equivalent to that of a Colonel or equivalent in the U. S. military will be paid to the congressional member if the member does not own housing within 50 miles of the District of Colombia.

Congress shall pass no law granting its members free meals, beverages, or other incidental expenses. Congress shall not pass any law granting its members free travel anywhere except to their home district a maximum of 12 times per year by commercial carrier.

It could be called "The Anti-Congressional Entitlement Amendment."

17 posted on 07/11/2012 1:22:32 PM PDT by DallasDeb (usafa06mom)
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To: JTHomes
"You can bet they will. It will be a good deal for them to renounce their US citizenship, move to a tax friendly country and set up shop. That will increase wait times here as new docs leave and old docs retire. Thanks Obamacare."

The Obama drones don't get it. It is not about health care. It is about power and control. The drones will happily give Obama the razor to slit their throats.

18 posted on 07/11/2012 1:22:32 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: jyro

Yes, but we will all have a little card saying we have health insurance! Won’t that be dandy?


19 posted on 07/11/2012 1:25:56 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: DallasDeb
Here's something a bit simpler:

Congress shall pass no law.

20 posted on 07/11/2012 1:36:28 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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