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Anxious investors day trading with retirement accounts
Los Angeles Times ^ | July 09, 2012 | Walter Hamilton

Posted on 07/12/2012 6:35:45 AM PDT by george76

Baby boomers and others worried about the lack of money in their 401(k)s and IRAs are day trading within their retirement accounts.

Americans worried about running out of money in their golden years are trying a new investment strategy: day trading their retirement funds.

Disillusioned with the conventional buy-and-hold approach, baby boomers are anxious to improve their retirement prospects after two punishing bear markets in the last decade.

Some people are trading the mutual funds in their 401(k) plans more frequently. Others are venturing into options. And some aggressive investors have begun day trading their nest eggs — all in a bid to make up for lost time.

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Joe Hansman, 29, who handles customer complaints at Wells Fargo, shifts money among two conservative mutual funds in his 401(k) and the banking company's own stock. He trades 10 to 15 times a month, steering money into Wells Fargo's stock when he expects it to rally for a few day.

"When I told my wife about it she was really nervous … until I educated her on what it all entails and how poorly [the 401(k)] was performing before that," Hansman said. "She's still not 100% behind it but she said, 'Just don't lose everything. If you do I'll divorce you.' "

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: daytrading; gambling; mutualfunds; retirement

1 posted on 07/12/2012 6:35:55 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Some of us don’t have much choice.


2 posted on 07/12/2012 6:40:45 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: george76

“Just don’t lose everything. If you do, I’ll divorce you.”

This is the girl who, when the Preacher said “for richer or poorer”, announced “What’s this ‘poorer’ bullshit?”


3 posted on 07/12/2012 6:41:01 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: george76

Say it! Say it! Say "I lost the nest-egg." Go on, say it!

4 posted on 07/12/2012 6:50:36 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: george76

“Big mistake. Big. Huge. I have to go shopping now.”

-Vivian, from Pretty Woman


5 posted on 07/12/2012 7:39:55 AM PDT by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: george76

Joe will lose it anyway, since he works right at the Koolaid factory. He should be putting it into gold and ammo...


6 posted on 07/12/2012 7:42:35 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: george76

Soon to be divorced Joe Hansman, 29, has about 40 years to go before he can access his 401k.

But he’s worried about poor returns these last few years.

Joe’s not too bright.


7 posted on 07/12/2012 7:48:54 AM PDT by free me (Roberts killed America)
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To: george76

Having to resort to gambling on the stock market with retirement money.


8 posted on 07/12/2012 8:14:19 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: dfwgator
Twenty-two, twenty-two, come on back to me, come on back to me!
9 posted on 07/12/2012 8:55:38 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: george76

He’s 29 years old, he should just ride it out. Trying to time the market isn’t very smart.


10 posted on 07/12/2012 8:57:59 AM PDT by Marathoner 244
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To: All

Tragically “daytrading” is gambling.

And like all gamblers, they share certain unfortunate traits.

First off, they will always talk about their wins, but never their losses.

When you add up the net gains and losses, the total returns will be less then if the kept it in a balanced mutual fund and left it alone.

They will lie to themselves that they are making money, when in fact they are losing (sort of like the recent California city bankruptcies).

They will suffer loses and then bet bigger trying to win back their losses (also known in the gamblers world as “the grind”).

And eventually they will lose it all and possibly be in debt if they used margin.

All gambling will eventually revert to the statistical mean.

Too sad.


11 posted on 07/12/2012 1:49:56 PM PDT by OhhTee5
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