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Scotland's 'explosive' push to secede from the U.K.
The Week ^ | JANUARY 13, 2012,

Posted on 07/15/2012 11:03:50 AM PDT by robowombat

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To: Caulkhead

Yes, I did realize those numbers you mention.

As I mentioned above, the public employment numbers are, in part, a result of the NHS in the UK. All doctors, nurses, EMT’s, et al are considered public employees.

And, to not put too fine a point on it, there are many counties in the US where the public sector employment is north of 25%. They, like Scotland, tend to be rural areas with lots of ag producers.

The Scots can do what they will and maybe their economy takes a hit to the head. I’m all for breaking up the UK and getting rid of one of the largest makers of mischief in world history. These morons have sucked us into one war after another, not entirely to our benefit.


61 posted on 07/16/2012 11:53:35 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave

“The Scots can do what they will and maybe their economy takes a hit to the head. I’m all for breaking up the UK and getting rid of one of the largest makers of mischief in world history. These morons have sucked us into one war after another, not entirely to our benefit.”

Scotland is tiny - it leaving the UK will not break up the UK in terms of influence as that is almost entirely a synonym for England.

I am English and therefore a ‘moron’ according to you - perhaps you might like to backup your ignorant rant and explain which wars we’ve sucked you into?


62 posted on 07/17/2012 3:44:47 AM PDT by Caulkhead
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To: NVDave; Caulkhead
one of the largest makers of mischief in world history

Now the thinking behind this i would love to read.
Still i suppose if your nation is able to be criticised for its actions ,it has at least done something worthy of note.

63 posted on 07/17/2012 1:35:02 PM PDT by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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To: moose07

Well, we certainly had a large hand in creating the US. Whether you consider that mischief, serendipity or altruism is rather subjective. :)


64 posted on 07/17/2012 4:29:42 PM PDT by Caulkhead
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
They got thrown out in the Highland clearances to make pastures for sheep owned by English lords.

Not so - the landowners responsible for the worst of the Clearances were themselves Scots.

65 posted on 07/21/2012 4:06:39 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: NVDave
Considering the crap that is sloshing around the UK banking sector and The City, it is probably a very good time to get loose of The City, even if that means ditching the union.

The banking liabilities in the world due to derivatives gone mad are the largest in London and NYC. If the Scots (and anyone else) can isolate their national treasuries from having to backstop the large banks, then that alone is a sound reason to want to split off.

Unfortunately for your thesis, some of the most irresponsible behaviour by British banks prior to the 2008 crash actually came from Scottish-based institutions, RBS and HBOS. The Edinburgh moneymen, once a byword for probity and prudence, had their noses in the trough as deep as anybody else.

66 posted on 07/21/2012 4:14:12 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: publius911

1—No.

The Scots Muslim population is tiny, and is much more integrated than parts of England. And the ‘heid chiefs’ of the Scots Muslim community, like Bashir Maan, have worked hard to integrate and to clamp down on any potential terrorism problem.

In fact the only Scots Muslim terrorist has been a WHITE convert from Dundee!. Even the two who attacked Glasgow Airport were English and Indian.

The worst Muslim act here was a racist murder of a white teenager in Glasgow. For which the scum were jailed. And it was the POLICE, not the Glasgow Muslim community, who denied early that it was racial. The GM community said it was very early.


67 posted on 07/25/2012 2:36:26 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: publius911

1—No.

The Scots Muslim population is tiny, and is much more integrated than parts of England. And the ‘heid chiefs’ of the Scots Muslim community, like Bashir Maan, have worked hard to integrate and to clamp down on any potential terrorism problem.

In fact the only Scots Muslim terrorist has been a WHITE convert from Dundee!. Even the two who attacked Glasgow Airport were English and Indian.

The worst Muslim act here was a racist murder of a white teenager in Glasgow. For which the scum were jailed. And it was the POLICE, not the Glasgow Muslim community, who denied early that it was racial. The GM community said it was very early.


68 posted on 07/25/2012 2:36:50 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: moose07

Even as a staunch pro-union Tory, I have to point out that the subsidy idea is a pernicious myth, and where some ‘subsidy’ has existed, due to the Barnett Formula, it has to be pointed out that the BF exists because until its foundation, Scotland and Wales had been UNDER-funded by the UK.

That said, I, as a Scot, support its abolition.


69 posted on 07/25/2012 2:39:48 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: packrat35

Scotland contributes 8.5% to the British economy, and has 8% of the UK population.

I agree, as a Scot, that our socialist bent is depressing, but the idea that we are a worthless parasite is nonsense.


70 posted on 07/25/2012 2:49:04 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: rmlew

Even as a pro-union Tory, I think thats drivel.


71 posted on 07/25/2012 2:50:29 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: Kozak

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Scotland


72 posted on 07/25/2012 2:51:43 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: Mike Darancette

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Scotland


73 posted on 07/25/2012 2:52:45 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Plenty of the lords were Scots.

‘English lords’ is a nationalist myth.


74 posted on 07/25/2012 2:53:57 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: packrat35

Eventually, England is going to say, “Well.....bye.”


75 posted on 07/25/2012 2:55:30 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: robowombat

Unfortunately, now that Rangers FC went belly up, can’t even look forward to anymore good Celtic vs Rangers brawls.


76 posted on 07/25/2012 2:57:32 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Pure Country
Speaking of bagpipes, it reminds me of this Thomas Beecham anecdote;

Sir Thomas Beecham was a British conductor, famous for being quite the curmudgeon, as well as a brilliant musician. He was once approached by a woman asking his advice on what instrument her young son should learn to play, and she expressed concern about the length of the learning curve between the sometimes godawful noises produced by beginners and the time when the student would sound more tolerable. Sir Thomas' reply:

"Madam, without fail your son should take up the bagpipes. They sound EXACTLY the same when you first pick them up as when you've mastered them!

77 posted on 07/25/2012 2:59:05 PM PDT by KamperKen
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To: Kozak
I imagine that the English would not mind to be relived of the burden of paying their northern brethren’s bills!
Freedom from London then economic basket case with no basket instead of socialist paradise! That’ll show the English !
78 posted on 07/25/2012 3:08:34 PM PDT by Reily
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To: robowombat

“Explosive push”? Sorry, I already made my Mark Renton “Trainspotting” joke for the day.


79 posted on 07/25/2012 3:09:40 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: the scotsman
Are there any Tory constituencies left in Scotland?
I've only been to Scotland once adn found it disappointing. I found Glasgow to be more depressing and socialist than Leeds or Manchester. (to be fair, I have family in the post-industrial English cities.) It was more indigenous, which is a good sign. Edinburgh was not much better.
It's nothing personal. People make nasty snap decisions about New York City all the time.
80 posted on 07/25/2012 4:00:22 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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