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Tax Break Nears End for Online Shoppers
The Wall Street Journal ^ | July 16, 2012 | Monica Langley

Posted on 07/16/2012 2:29:10 PM PDT by JeepersFreepers

Republican governors, eager for new revenue to ease budget strains, are dropping their longtime opposition to imposing sales taxes on online purchases, a significant political shift that could soon bring an end to tax-free sales on the Internet.

The newfound support among Republicans is a dramatic change from just a few months ago.

[N.J. Gov. Chris]Christie called taxation of online sales "an important issue to all the nation's governors" and endorsed federal legislation giving all states taxing authority.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 112th; chrischristie; ecommerce; internet; internettax; online; retail; salestax; stupidparty; tax; taxes
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To: lacrew

I know there are states that have a sales tax that’s not uniform throughout the state...”local option” I think it’s called.I guess that’s a special case...I was thinking more along the lines of state-to-state transactions.


21 posted on 07/16/2012 3:31:05 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President Of My Lifetime)
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To: JeepersFreepers

Gov. Perry and his people have already taken on Amazon to collect tax money for Texas and it was to start this month so I guess it did.

A pox on governors for doing this and I live in Texas. Perry wanted more of my money and your money if you live in Texas.


22 posted on 07/16/2012 3:34:01 PM PDT by Marcella (The power to tax is the power to destroy.)
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To: JeepersFreepers

Gov. Perry and his people have already taken on Amazon to collect tax money for Texas and it was to start this month so I guess it did.

A pox on governors for doing this and I live in Texas. Perry wanted more of my money and your money if you live in Texas.


23 posted on 07/16/2012 3:34:01 PM PDT by Marcella (The power to tax is the power to destroy.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

What’s supposed to happen is if they have a presence in the state of the buyer they charge sales tax. If they don’t the buyer is supposed to self report and pay the sales tax on their own. All this got solved ages ago with mail order catalogs, somehow the internet just chose to ignore it.


24 posted on 07/16/2012 3:39:28 PM PDT by discostu (Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends.)
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To: JeepersFreepers

When Republicans join the Democrats in wanting to raise taxes, where do we turn?

Tea party just like 1765


25 posted on 07/16/2012 3:42:42 PM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“I was thinking more along the lines of state-to-state transactions”

Oh, the same holds true state to state. Here’s the Kansas shakedown (note the last sentence):

The vehicle will need to be returned to Kansas in order to obtain a motor vehicle examination*, form MVE-1, from the Kansas Highway Patrol or their designee. Kansas residents out of Kansas but wanting to make application for a Kansas title and registration need to refer to the inspection question in these FAQ’s. The assigned out of state title and the MVE-1 or the completed TR-65 inspection will need to be submitted to your county treasurer’s motor vehicle office along with proof of insurance to make application for title and registration. Sales tax will be collected at the time of application.


26 posted on 07/16/2012 3:44:23 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: MamaDearest
So now voters who were already “iffy” about voting for Romney will have a reason to vote for Obama since this news will affect a LOT of people in the pocketbook in this time of terrible economy when retail and other sales need to be INCREASED and not penalized. What idiot timed this news for pre-election?

I don't understand why you think this is helpful to Obama? It seems to me that a tax increase under Obama would be harmful to him.

27 posted on 07/16/2012 3:45:00 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: JeepersFreepers

A *state* has a right to tax, dammit. Such a tax is local and subject to LOCAL authorities.

I am glad to live in a STATE that doesn’t tax income. We attract lots of business because of that...

What part of the Tenth Amendment are we not understanding here on FR?

If a TAX on online purchases is a bad idea OR a good idea, that should be up to Californians to decide for Californians, for Floridians to decide for Floridians, and for Hoosiers to decide for Indiana.


28 posted on 07/16/2012 3:45:13 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: discostu
What’s supposed to happen is if they have a presence in the state of the buyer they charge sales tax. If they don’t the buyer is supposed to self report and pay the sales tax on their own.

Yes,that's true in at least some states and it's probably true in all that have a sales tax.But politicians know that few,if any,people who are required to report do so.I could tell you an interesting story regarding a dispute that Massachusetts (high sales tax) recently had with neighboring New Hampshire (no sales tax).Maybe I'll look for a link to a story about it...unbelievable chutzpah shown by the tax pigs that run Massachusetts.

29 posted on 07/16/2012 3:48:51 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President Of My Lifetime)
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To: JeepersFreepers
"When Republicans join the Democrats in wanting to raise taxes, where do we turn?"

1. Avoid buying anything that you don't really need.

2. Become more self-sufficient each month--especially in housing, energy (e.g., heating) and food.

3. Learn to produce something of necessity as a hobby for now.

4. Have fun. Enjoy the slide.


30 posted on 07/16/2012 3:55:08 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Gay State Conservative

Yeah most folks don’t self report, which in the old days was probably OK by the state because the amount of paperwork generated would have been more than the revenue. The target has really always been the businesses, higher revenue per form ratio. Things got strange for the internet because companies “forgot” they’re basically mail order and didn’t bother to apply local sales tax on local customers and the states just let it happen. Now of course government officials being government officials they’re approaching it like it’s something new that needs a news tax structure, it doesn’t they’re mail order companies mail order related tax laws apply.


31 posted on 07/16/2012 3:55:31 PM PDT by discostu (Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends.)
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To: discostu
Found a link that gives a general summary of the case I referred to.IIRC the Massachusetts courts gave a final ruling demanding that the NH stores turn over their records and,soon after,NH passed a law forbidding any such disclosure and that settled the matter....no disclosures from NH.

Massachusetts Tax Pigs

32 posted on 07/16/2012 3:58:21 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President Of My Lifetime)
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To: discostu

Damn...can’t find a good link that works.Summary:Massachusetts demands that a tire company in NH (no sales tax) that installs tires on cars with Mass plates collect 5% (at the time it was 5%) sales tax and remit the money to the Mass Treasury.The tire store refused and the NH legislature quickly passed a law making it illegal for any company to do so.So the joke was on the Rat Party tax pigs of Massachusetts.


33 posted on 07/16/2012 4:10:35 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President Of My Lifetime)
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To: MamaDearest
So now voters who were already “iffy” about voting for Romney will have a reason to vote for Obama since this news will affect a LOT of people in the pocketbook in this time of terrible economy when retail and other sales need to be INCREASED and not penalized. What idiot timed this news for pre-election?

So, voting for Obama helps all of us affected people? Your statement makes absolutely no sense.

34 posted on 07/16/2012 4:22:13 PM PDT by RobertClark (Be prepared, be polite, be professional and have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
A *state* has a right to tax, dammit. Such a tax is local and subject to LOCAL authorities. I am glad to live in a STATE that doesn’t tax income. We attract lots of business because of that...

What part of the Tenth Amendment are we not understanding here on FR?

If a TAX on online purchases is a bad idea OR a good idea, that should be up to Californians to decide for Californians, for Floridians to decide for Floridians, and for Hoosiers to decide for Indiana.

This is absolutely worth repeating and screaming from the rooftops!

35 posted on 07/16/2012 4:25:06 PM PDT by RobertClark (Be prepared, be polite, be professional and have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: JeepersFreepers

no, this just means shippers and overseas sellers are about to have a glory days.

Why buy here when you can buy tax free elsewhere.


36 posted on 07/16/2012 4:33:59 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: JeepersFreepers

You would think that all the Christie supporters here would have learned their lessons about this GOP fraud. He’s NOT a conservative!


37 posted on 07/16/2012 4:50:07 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: JeepersFreepers

Right out of THE PLAYBOOK

And this household is preparing for like dark leverage of Phony-Care, under Hillary Romney.


38 posted on 07/16/2012 5:17:20 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: RobertClark
I was raised by democrat parents and have democrat siblings in the Midwest (and was brought up to believe republicans are for the rich). Of course that is not true, but there are many in America who will go to their graves believing that democrats champion the poor, when it fact, they do nothing of the kind.

I merely suggest taxation of internet sales shouldn't be a pre-election topic. Voters have long memories and many (both political persuasions) have already tightened up their spending habits. The other half (Obama voters) are likely to retain their entitlements of disability income, welfare and food stamps with no obligations to recipients.

This election is going to be tough, even given what we know about Obama and what he's done in the past 3-1/2 years.

39 posted on 07/16/2012 5:26:53 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: JeepersFreepers
significant political shift that could soon bring an end to tax-free sales on the Internet.

No. There were never "tax-free sales" on the internet -- just tax cheats who don't report their purchases.

Every state which has a sales tax requires their residents to report all purchases, online or otherwise, when the tax is not collected at the point of sale. The push now is to get the federal government to enable the collection of the sales tax on internet purchases, so that people can't cheat on their taxes (increasing the burden on the law-abiding citizens, which USED to include most conservatives).

40 posted on 07/16/2012 5:51:27 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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