Posted on 07/17/2012 5:11:59 AM PDT by xzins
Palin. Paul as VP. You certainly can’t say it’s status quo. As starkly different from Obama/Biden as night and day. There would at least be a choice above and beyond how fast we slide into a socialist dystopia.
>It doesn't matter. You emotional claim that Jindal was “an anchor baby” is false. His parent were in the US with the permission of the US Govt, as opposed to illegals who by definition cannot accept the jurisdiction of the US.
2. Bobby Jindal was born a citizen of the nation of India, the nation to which his parents owed allegiance.
>As stated many times, this has nothing to do with allegiance only obedience as defined in the 14th amendment.
3. How about hypothetically allowing Ahmadinejab of Iran visit the US with one of his wives pregnant and ready to deliver?
> More emotion. The 14th amendment does not allow this. Given that a child born to the president of Iran does not accept the jurisdiction of the US. Neither would the children of foreign ambassadors or enemy combatants have nbC status. Your arguments show your lack of knowledge of the 14th amendment.
4.“Natural Born Citizen” MUST mean something different than the phrase preceding it... “citizen”... referring to those who were “citizens” prior to the adoption of the Constitution. After the adoption of the Constitution, “citzen” was no longer acceptable as a standard, and something that had to have been more stringent, “natural born” became the standard.
>Then why don't you contact your Senators and Congressman to propose an amendment to the Constitution to define this. We all bash Roberts for writing things into the Constitution that aren't there, let's not do it ourselves.
Are you agreeing that the Constitution itself draws a distinction between (mere) citizen and "natural born citizen"? It sounds like it. (Which is good, since it is the text of the Constitution already.)
I do think there should, at a minimum, be legislation that defines responsibility for ensuring any candidate meets all the eligibility criteria and defining each of the eligibility standards. We could do that more permanently by amendment, but I have no problem with doing it initially by legislation.
If you could, what kind of twee would you be?
A son or a daughter born in London England to an US Air Force Airman or Officer and his wife is an nbC. This individual may run for President after 14 years of Residency in the US. The son of the French ambassador born in INOVA of Fairfax (VA) hospital is not.
Well, praise the Lord and pass the ammunition, so real. You have corrected a real deficiency on my list.
Sheriff Joe should definitely be there.
There only thing against him is that he might be viewed as an honest man. Lol!
Well, praise the Lord and pass the ammunition, so real. You have corrected a real deficiency on my list.
Sheriff Joe should definitely be there.
The only thing against him is that he might be viewed as an honest man. Lol!
Osage Orange. Toughest wood I know.
Now, who is your pick to replace Mittens?
I’m a retired military chaplain. I know about overseas births.
Now, were you agreeing that the constitution itself draws a distinction between (mere) citizen and “natural born citizen”? It’s there in the text. Do you agree?
Okay. Tilt at the windmill. I know what evil is. In the end, God might intercede, but through choice, some of it - most of it - the task is left to us.
I know the sentiment here about him amongst some FReepers - I sympathize greatly. However, unless you want to pick up a rifle now and throw the evil out (BTW, I’d be right there with you), you have to be at least a little bit practical.
Undercutting at the convention, unless there is a clear chance of success of swapping him out, isn’t what I’d call practical. His VP pick? It don’t make no nevermind. Biden is an idiot, and there ain’t nobody on this earth that can say, from his heart, that Biden is better than ANYBODY we can pick.
Trashing Bachmann shows how out of touch with any kind of reality you are.
Either Bachmann or Perry would be awesome presidents.
“I don’t know any other political figure that measures up to Allen West.”
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I think that the Florida GOP has caused West some problems with redistricting. I hope they are not trying to get rid of him.
Marco Rubio is reported to claim that he is a natural born citizen eligible to the Office of the President and Vice President. His claim is false, because he was born with automatic natural born Cuban citizenship in addition to the right to claim native born U.S. citizenship. No person who has ever been obligated with allegiance to a foreign sovereign can qualify as a natural born citizen whose one and only allegiance has ever been the sovereign Citizens of the United States.
Under Cuban law, Marco Rubio was born as a natural born citizen of Cuba, because his parents were natural born Cuban citizens. It is this natural born allegiance to Cuba which disqualifies Marco Rubio from eligibility in accordance with the natural born citizen clause, despite his nativity in the United States. Marco Rubio was eligible to claim his Cuban citizenship upon his reaching the age of majority. His subsequent acts confirming his statutory right to claim U.S. citizenship is in accordance with statutory law, which automatically precludes the inherent right of natural born citizenship not arising from statues.
Duncan Hunter
>2. Bobby Jindal was born a citizen of the nation of India, the nation to which his parents owed allegiance.
Dude, are you serious?
“and Petraeus.”
Patreaus’ politics seem to lean towards the Democrat Party so I doubt he’d be in the mix on our side.
Deb, you’ll do and say anything to make us think Romney is a real Republican. Sorry, Ronald Reagan DID NOT RUN FOR PUBLIC OFFICE AS A DEMOCRAT. Just didn’t happen. What he did in a union is PRIVATE.
As our political system is currently configured we will have the choice between two opposing political theories in November. The Emperor Obama I’s theory is poison to the Republic's heritage; there is no way the Republic as established in 1798 could survive 4 more years. Mitt Romney offers a slightly better survival option.
If Mitt is elected, VERY CLOSELY monitored by “We, the People” and “We, the People” take Chief Justice Roberts at his word and vote out politicians every time they go back on their word (because we know the Supreme Court isn't going to do J**k S**t to defend the Republic) “We, the People” might give the Republic of 1798 and every thing it has given the rest of the world a chance of surviving.
The question that I so imperfectly framed in my initial post is “What do you (you as in the singular you “xzins” and as in the plural you “fellow freepers”) want - a man that will destroy our Republic (Emperor Obama I) or a man that offers us a chance to recover (Mitt Romney)?”
Given the options, I intend to vote for Mitt in full realization of all his known and unknown faults. This is IMHO in no way accepts his faults it just acknowledges his list is smaller than the Emperor's.
Oh, to able to vote for a Presidential Candidate again (1980 & 1984) instead of against Presidential Candidates!!
John Bolton.
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