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Arpaio: Obama birth record 'definitely fraudulent'
Associated Press ^ | Jul 17, 2012 | UN-Named

Posted on 07/17/2012 11:32:38 PM PDT by Rabin

Maricopa County Sheriff said in March that there was probable cause that Obama's long-form birth certificate, was a computer-generated forgery. Now... investigators are positive it's fraudulent... numeric codes on certain parts of the birth certificate indicate that those parts weren't filled out, yet (the) sections were completed... Investigators previously didn't know the meaning of codes but they were explained by a 95-year-old former state worker who signed the president's birth certificate.

The Obama campaign declined to comment

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: arpaio; arpoiobamazillo; bc; birftards; obama
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To: tsowellfan
What on earth could the man be ashamed of with his birth certificate. I mean there’s very little time to sin from the time of birth to the time they fill out a birth certificate.

Why the secret? Is it because of the circumstances in which he was born? Or was it because of the place he was born?

To me, logically, the problem with the birth certificate would have to be so serious that no amount of spinning could fix the problem.

This is because Obama knows that with the MSM there to carry his water, if it was anything that could be spun, then they would help him do that.

For example, some speculate that the birth certificate did not name a father, and that it was forged for the sole purposes of filling in the details as to the father.

But to my mind, this does not make sense. Obama could easily, with the help of the MSM, spin his way out of that. In fact, the MSM would hold up his mother as some sort of saint for having to press forward and have him alone.

No, I think it must go to the place of birth. That's the only thing Obama and the MSM could not explain away and therefore would justify going to the lengths and taking the risks that he has taken on this.

21 posted on 07/18/2012 1:16:49 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Meet the New Boss
No, I think it must go to the place of birth. That's the only thing Obama and the MSM could not explain away and therefore would justify going to the lengths and taking the risks that he has taken on this.

Also, from what I gathered from the news conference it sounded like anybody could get a Hawaiian birth certificate even if born from outside the country. All that would be required would be for the parents to be residents of the State of Hawaii.

If this is the case it's possible that there was a birth certificate. If there was, why would he not just release that (even though he may have been born outside of the US - seems like it would not necessarily reflect that on the birth certificate).

Or, perhaps there is no birth certificate. At least not from Hawaii.

22 posted on 07/18/2012 1:37:41 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: Rabin
The most important thing to come out of all this is proof that Obama lied to the American people

Last year, Obama publicly released a forged document, claiming it was authentic. He basically said to America: "This is my birth certificate. For those who doubted that I was born in the US...FU!!"

All of the Obama sycophants in the Press declared the the matter was settled.

Here is a perfect example where the cover up (the President of the US releasing forged documents to the people of the US) is worse the the crime.

If Obama could look A Erica in the face and proclaim forged documents to be authentic, what else do you believe Obama is capable of lying about?

23 posted on 07/18/2012 1:41:53 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: tsowellfan

>> How is it that the White House would have allowed that PDF file go public with it being so obvious that it’s a fake?

It was probably a mistake.


24 posted on 07/18/2012 1:43:53 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: tsowellfan

The explanation that best fits the facts to my mind is that Grandma Toot tried to file something with the Hawaii DoH in August 1961.

This filing is what triggered the newspaper birth announcements.

But the birth claim that Grandma Toot filed was a half-handwritten, half-typed dodgy paper that if anyone actually looked at, would raise more questions than it answered.

So Obama’s solution was to come up with a birth certificate that looked like a normal document someone born in a hospital would have, and so hopefully questions wouldn’t be raised as to whether he was really born in Hawaii.


25 posted on 07/18/2012 1:48:04 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Rabin

Which brings us one step closer to CWII...


26 posted on 07/18/2012 1:53:30 AM PDT by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: Meet the New Boss
But the birth claim that Grandma Toot filed was a half-handwritten, half-typed dodgy paper that if anyone actually looked at, would raise more questions than it answered.

And of course if there is no Hawaii birth certificate for him back then I would imagine it would have been difficult for him in later years to get a social security card to get a job or perhaps even to go to college. I mean, you don't just go into a social security office and get a SSN without some proof you are an American citizen and not a tourist from Mexico or Kenya.

27 posted on 07/18/2012 2:04:27 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: Rabin

The red states should secede, pronouncing no bond can possibly exist between the states if the terms under which they were united (namely, the Constitution) are not strictly observed. It’s an absurdity to suppose otherwise and the red states should explicitly put it out there that a fraudulent president taints the whole structure and no state can be supposed to be bound to it in any way, no less so than if all the terms of the Constitution were discarded.


28 posted on 07/18/2012 2:09:22 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
The red states should secede, pronouncing no bond can possibly exist between the states if the terms under which they were united (namely, the Constitution) are not strictly observed. It’s an absurdity to suppose otherwise and the red states should explicitly put it out there that a fraudulent president taints the whole structure and no state can be supposed to be bound to it in any way, no less so than if all the terms of the Constitution were discarded.

Amen to that! Agree 100%. Common sense!

29 posted on 07/18/2012 2:17:16 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: Rabin

I took a bunch of gruff for saying it was a fraud and spent a fair amount of time defending my opinion.

Thank you Sheriff Joe Arpaio. :)

In the future I expect a little more respect and considertion. And oh yea one more thing:

I TOLD YOU SO!!

ha.


30 posted on 07/18/2012 2:21:58 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Rabin
Myth Romney is reportedly pushing the RINO to protection mode for his Obama
regarding the "BC" frauds.

Romney: "Obama was born in the United States"

Romney: "Obama Doesn’t Need a Birth Certificate"

Romney: "The citizenship test has been passed"

31 posted on 07/18/2012 2:53:08 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Armaggedon

Good post, they accuse the other side of what they are.


32 posted on 07/18/2012 3:05:53 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: F15Eagle

Did you forget Carter? Sheesh he was awful. Carter, Obama, Hoover, Nixon were the worst in that order.


33 posted on 07/18/2012 3:15:49 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Diogenesis
Well, the RINO’s that declared that Obama’s BC was a ‘non-issue’ or ‘settled’ are now free to do what the Democrats did on the war in Iraq — namely, turn-on-a-dime and start raising the questions that they so blithely dismissed. ... yea right! And now we return you to what passes for Reality in these United States of America. Or what's left of it.
34 posted on 07/18/2012 3:17:38 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Rabin

Will any of this be discussed on Fox News (Bill O’Rielly, Shawn Hannity, Greta, Megan Kelly, etc.?), Rush Limbaugh, Mitt Romney or among any of the RINOs? This is the elephant in the room and no one, beyond Drudge, Freerepublic, WND and a couple of other places will even discuss it, though our national security definitely could be compromised because of it. This issue should be front and center and it is covered up at every turn. Folks, I feel hopeless when the enemies among us are greater than those external to us. As I see it the anarchy which will results in dictatorship is here (flashmobs by the young..”Oh, those kiddes just need jobs!” No, those kiddies feel they have a license to do that!” and the powers which could do something about it are mum.) History will view us the same as we view Nazi Germany..Why did those people allow that to happen..Why did they not see what Hitler was doing? We are no different than those people were and we could suffer the same fate.


35 posted on 07/18/2012 3:35:22 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: napscoordinator
Did you forget Carter? Sheesh he was awful. Carter, Obama, Hoover, Nixon were the worst in that order.


I'd have to go with

Carter
Panama Canal Treaties
Terminated the Russian wheat deal
Iranian Revolution & Shah
And so on ...
Buchanan
Policies which lead to civil war.

L.B. Johnson
Great Society programs

Andrew Johnson
Opposed reconstruction initiatives (including the 14th amendment).


Probably too early to determine if Obama is on the list, but he sure is fast-tracking himself to be there.
36 posted on 07/18/2012 3:45:06 AM PDT by Kegger
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To: Armaggedon

Is Obama a felon?

Based on Alinsky’s rules one would have to conclude, if you are claiming someone else is, it is probably because you are.


37 posted on 07/18/2012 4:08:18 AM PDT by wita
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To: jazzlite
Good points. Now that Drudge has opened the flood gates, you'd think that Limbaugh would follow suit.

A lack of a congressional investigation would make the entire body an accessory to this crime.

Our founding fathers shook things up for a lot less.

38 posted on 07/18/2012 4:28:33 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: Rabin
Now that President Obama’s birth record has been PROVEN to be fraudulent what happens? What states will keep him off the ballet? Will this effect those who were going to vote for him?
39 posted on 07/18/2012 4:29:41 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: Rabin; All
Canada Free Press nailed it long ago:

Do you fear Barack Obama?

Canada Free Press

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

(snip)

Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.

(snip)

But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.

(snip)

Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.

(Snip

Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.

(Snip)

Who will save freedom?

A brave few… This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.

(Snip

Dr. Orly Taitz, Phil Berg and Gary kreep, all of whom have made defending the constitution and the American way of life a personal ambition in the absence of any constitutional leadership.

If the American people fail to get behind these brave few who are seeking peaceful redress, all the peaceful options will evaporate as if they never existed. We will return to a pre-1776 America overnight.

___________________

'But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.

Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.'

THAT is why nothing will come of the good sheriff's findings.

40 posted on 07/18/2012 4:30:36 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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