Arpaio: Obama birth record 'definitely fraudulent'

Associated Press ^ | Jul 17, 2012 | UN-Named

[Rabin]

Maricopa County Sheriff said in March that there was probable cause that Obama's long-form birth certificate, was a computer-generated forgery. Now... investigators are positive it's fraudulent... numeric codes on certain parts of the birth certificate indicate that those parts weren't filled out, yet (the) sections were completed... Investigators previously didn't know the meaning of codes but they were explained by a 95-year-old former state worker who signed the president's birth certificate.

The Obama campaign declined to comment

[BuffaloJack]

> Are they not technologically savoy enough ...
“savoy”? You mean like the Savoy Region in France?

[sirchtruth]

The most important thing to come out of all this is proof that Obama lied to the American people

Yeah, well Obama lied about sitting in Wright's church for 20 years listening to anti-American B.S. Obama has been nothing but a lie ever since he started campaigning for President.

We all know Obama is anti-American and unless more people proclaim the truth of this NOTHING will be done about it and the MSM knows it. In our history as America this is an absolute travesty and we will pay for our apathy.

If the majority of America does not care about this then we are screwed. However those who are in charge of upholding the law Repubs and Dems, better care about this because it will come back on them with a vengeance!

I now believe Obama is a traitorous infiltration.

[faucetman]

“How is it that the White House would have allowed that PDF file go public with it being so obvious that it’s a fake?”

I'm no expert, but I have read that after manipulating a document you have to “flatten it”. They just forgot to do this.

Impossible, you say? I just saw a true story about a plane crash (major airline) where the veteran pilots forgot to extend the flaps for takeoff and the plane crashed immediately killing everyone except a small child.

Hence the phrase “unbelievably true”.

[mazda77]

The biggest thing I took from watching the news conference is that any birth certificate coming from Hawaii, especially then is without a doubt suspect to being fraudulent. The letters dug up from state officials citing this possibility seemed more to be an attempt to initiate new rules not to fix the problem but to make it harder to find the problem, in essence to cover up the fact the state had a huge problem issuing birth certificates to anyone born anywhere in the world.

To anyone who knew this issue, and I’m sure the commies were all over trying to find loopholes in our laws, this was/is a wide open back door for fraudulent BCs.

The issues about the document in question are two major points to show the document is altered in respect to the fathers information which was coded by the initial inspector, and verified by a second inspector, to be not filled in at the time of the original generation. To top that off, when it was modified, they used “African” at the time the boxes were filled in. The only problem is that “African” was not used as an official designation until something like 1983. So, if the document was modified at the Vital Statistics office, who did it, and it also invalidates it as an official BC and is relegated as not being acceptable as an identification document, by the rules in Hawaii.

The next obvious issue is the certificate number being out of sequence with know babies being born after Obama. They explained in detail the process by which this was assigned and the information learned from the 95 year old clerk puts a huge cloud of doubt over it. My take from that explanation is that this BC number actually belongs to someone else.

The upshot is that everyone here should research the information and watch the video or read the press release explanation to get a real feel just how screwed up the Hawaiian process is. I honestly think this will require a special prosecutor to camp out in Hawaii for a very long time to go through all of the documents and hospital logs to find out just how many people received BCs when they should not have been able to. It looks as though this was the means of sliding in all sorts of nefarious people with intent of creating just the situation we have here. True Manchurian citizens with intent and training to subvert our system from within.

[LibLieSlayer]

obama has a social security number... but it is not registered to him... and he used it to file papers to run for President... and the guy that did own it died in Hawaii long ago... but it was issued in CT and never reissued. Arpaio knows about this also.

LLS

[reefdiver]

There is also the issue of zer0s SSN#

[Lionheartusa1]

I watched the entire press meeting and there wasn’t much new to offer with the exception of his interview with Verna M. Lee (95 yrs. old ) who recorder the births at the alleged hospital . Upon completion of Sheriff Joe’s presentation the press immediately went into personal attack mode of Joe and Zullo and didn’t care much about the substance of his findings . Joe appealed to someone in congress to pick up on his investigation and dig deeper but I’m willing to bet BIG BUCKS no one will want to deal with this HOT POTATO .

[bigbob]

Thank you Sheriff Obvious

[IMR 4350]

Why do you automatically assume they didn't want anyone to find out?

Let me guess.

That's the conventional thinking and you can't think out of the box.

Consider the alternative and what will happen WHEN it's confirmed he's not eligible to be president.

[FES0844]

Probably, no where.

[elpadre]

I have always suspected that whenever the true certificate is found it will show his last name is not Obama.

[mazda77]

I saw something that explained that one. Something having to do with a Connecticut based child welfare organization that was brought in when his mother dumped him on the grandparents. This organization then applied for the SSN for Barry. Once accepting this as a plausible explanation, it then raises the point that this number had belonged to a person who has died. The biggest problem with that is the SSN’s are not recycled. So, this information begs for investigation also. Send in the feds to seal all records of this organization and let the special prosecutor verify that explanation.

Then comes to question the Selective Service application. That one has far more questions that the SSN, but they are intertwined.

I see lots of comments on this thread that deal with the over-riding desire to throw the Kenyan in jail. The reality is we are not going to see anything done before January 20th. What we need to do is to drill as many holes in the details of these events so the breeze blowing through them will need to be addressed by the next congress. If they don’t the GOPe will cease to exist as a major party after 2014. Let the hearing can begin as shortly after the next inauguration so we can;

1. Prosecute anyone having anything to do with them.

2. Do the same for Hawaii and to fix their back door that has been missing, since and before they became a state.

3. Once that is done, address the Constitutional crisis created by all of this and that includes anything this POS ever signed as POTUS.

4. Enjoy the scene as Bill O’Rielly eats crow on his own show to Beck’s face about his comment that we have nothinge to fear communists anymore.

[mazda77]

Assuming there is a true certificate, it will be in the Queen’s english.

[FrankR]

Obama and his ilk know the media is their faithful and obedient lapdog, and stupid and commie enough to carry his water, I.e. piss bucket.

He could have scrawled his birth certificate on a brown paper sack, with a crayon, and they would have bought into it.

The fact that everyone seems to miss is, Obama doesn’t have to please the people, he only has to please the media.

[libstripper]

My very strong suspicion is now and has been for a very long time that he has a genuine Hawaiian birth certificate that purports to establish BHO I as his father. The problem, IMHO, is that it's one of the notorious Hawaiian “do it yourself” certificates that is now and was then allowed by Hawaiian statutes that were clearly designed to allow citizenship fraud. In 1961 and today Hawaiian statutes provide for number of ways a person can obtain a birth certificate. The two relevant ones are: 1) a hospital generated certificate, which the Obama fake purports to be, and 2) a birth certificate prepared and signed by either parent who was present at the birth, if the birth occurred outside a hospital. The second type of certificate, which I refer to as a “do it yourself” certificate didn't need to be notarized or otherwise verified and was and is as legally valid as the first type. A birth notice base on the type 2 certificate would have been duly transmitted to the newspapers for publication and would have been the basis for the “Certification of Live Birth” That the Hawaii DOH later issued for Obama.

IMHO the actual “do it yourself” certificate has been suppressed because revealing it would raise and would have raised massive legitimacy problems for Obama. After all, he and his sycophants have always claimed he was born in an Hawaiian hospital, even though they've had a lot of trouble getting which one straight, having first claimed it was Queens and later settled on Kapiolani. If they now have to admit his Certificate of Live Birth shows he wasn't born in any hospital, that would raise serious legitimacy questions even they would have a hard time lying themselves out of.

[napscoordinator]

I totally forgot about that Cad Lydon Johnson and his disasterous programs. Buchanan and Andrew Johnson to be honest I am not as familiar with but what you have written certainly places him on the top 10 worst Presidents in History.

[PLD]

We have all here at FR known this Communist is a Scam Artist,now what are we going to do about it...It is amazing every time I see this creep I wonder how he keeps getting away with all of his scams.I for one am sick to death of him and his wife..He plays his part like there is nothing on earth that can touch him..He does have the bastard Soros paying for his get out of jail free card.. What also needs to happen is to take the old fart Soros by the neck and throw his ugly butt out of our country..

[PLD]

We have all here at FR known this Communist is a Scam Artist,now what are we going to do about it...It is amazing every time I see this creep I wonder how he keeps getting away with all of his scams.I for one am sick to death of him and his wife..He plays his part like there is nothing on earth that can touch him..He does have the bastard Soros paying for his get out of jail free card.. What also needs to happen is to take the old fart Soros by the neck and throw his ugly butt out of our country..

[onedoug]

Nothing is going to happen. The fraud will continue unabated because no one is going to a damned thing about it, least of all the cowardly Congress. And the Supreme Court is a joke. If Romney succeeds in getting BO “reestablished” America is finished.

[Flightdeck]

The SSN would seem to be a more verifiable route to investigate, if indeed fraud was committed. I’m personally curious what his college application/records look like. The (other) big story in all this is the media corruption, as Breitbart’s site illustrated when they unearthed the literary agency pamphlet saying he was born in Kenya. The media disgusts me.