Skip to comments.It Was Shockingly Easy For The Batman Shooter To Buy A Massive Arsenal
Posted on 07/21/2012 12:31:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Denver shooting suspect James Holmes purchased some 6,000 rounds of ammunition over the internet before carrying out hismassacre at a midnight screening of Batman.
The ammunition was part of a massive arsenal he gathered in the run-up to the killings, which also included four guns legally purchased at local gun shops.
His weapons were two Glock pistols, a 12-guage shotgun, and a high-powered AR-15 assault rifle fitted with a drum magazine allowing a fire rate of 50 to 60 rounds per minute.
Dan Oates, the chief of police in Aurora, Colorado, where Holmes killed 12 people and injured 58 others, said: He purchased four guns at local gun shops and through the internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of ammunition, more than 3,000 rounds of 0.223 ammunition for the assault rifle, 3,000 rounds of 0.40 caliber ammunition for the two Glocks in his possession, and 300 rounds for the 12 gauge shotgun.
Also through the internet he purchased multiple magazines for the 0.223 caliber assault rifle including one 100-round drum magazine which was recovered from the scene.
Even if it was semi-automatic Im told by experts that with that drum magazine he could have got off 50 to 60 rounds within a minute. As far as we know it was a pretty rapid pace of fire in the theatre.
My understanding is that all the weapons he possessed, he possessed legally and all the clips that he possessed, he possessed legally and all the ammunition he possessed, he possessed legally.
Holmes is also believed to have joined a casual sex website where he apparently hinted at his plans for his killing spree, asking potential suitors: Will you visit me in prison?
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Who’d a thought that being a student would pay so well? That’s some expensive artillery.
Just needed some Second Amendment folks in the theater, imho.
Where is the “massive arsenal”? That sounds like what is normally in my trunk on any given day.
I’m not accepting this story at face value. There are too many oddities.
“You have the right person.” - Mom Holmes
>>through the internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of ammunition,
So what? If I hadn’t lost all my guns, magazines, and ammo in a boating accident two years ago, I’d have more ammo than that.
My FIL misplaces that many of his guns and ammo EVERY MONTH!
They forgot the bic pen converted to a spitball gun.
Yah beat me to it. Great minds and all that rot. lol
Was thinking the same thing. How does a student manage to come up with the loot to buy all that hardware and don't know what kind of car he was driving, but it was not a Klunker either?
Financial Aid and Student Loans?
Even then, when I was in college (having availed myself to both as well as working 2 jobs and that was many moons ago) I was not exactly rolling in it and lived very frugally.
He didnt have a “massive” arsenal. He had a FEW firearms. A couple of handguns, a rifle and a shot gun. Everyone of my friends is similarly equipped, several times over.
6,000 rounds is possibly adequate for a summar of training for a father and son. Given the fluctuation in ammo pricing thanks to O, one buys when the price is right. That reminds me: i am getting low on 5.56 NATO.
My thoughts too. He was unemployed receiving unemployment payments. How could he afford so much ammo and so many fine weapons? AR-15s ain't cheap.
So how is Colorado supposed to “tighten” gun laws?
Refuse gun or ammo sales to 24 year old medical students with no police record? He obviously took advantage of existing laws.
So what new laws would have stymied a closet perv psycho with mass murder plans?
My question still is WEAPONS TRAINING.
He HAD to have gotten it, at some point in his life
Especially when you buy it at Gander Mtn.
Who says he paid for it? If he ordered by credit card knowing what he was going to do, how’re the card companies going to collect?
Someone has already pointed out that his meek surrender seems very odd after shooting 71 people. A lot of valid questions are going unanswered and something is VERY strange about all of this.
Massive arsenal??????????????4 weapons???????????????
You know that’s what I would like to know, if this kid was out of work or was working part time at McDonald’s where did he get the money? That just doesn’t seem right, at all.
Anyone hear about the Ft. Hood shooter lately? Murdered people several years ago in an action of domestic Islamic terrorism, killed a baby, and his name stays largely out of the news while his lawyer keeps playing the “postpone” game.
He HAD to have gotten it, at some point in his life
Another very good point. Where did he learn to shoot and reload? This whole thing points to a well-put-together operation. This guy is an operative. Where did he get the money to buy all of that ordnance with no real job? Hmmmmm???
No. It was shockingly easy to follow a script that had been done before, in other countries, in print, and, on screen.
That it is shockingly easy for Americans to run and NOT RUSH the shooter is discouraging. Then again, these people were sitting ducks...and unarmed to a man.
Too many of us, Freepers, need to take some Coast Guard boating classes!
You know, living in CO with a CCW I’ve thought about what would have happened had I been there.
I’m pretty sure the honest answer is either died or ran. If I had a shot and took it, it wouldn’t have worked. He was in all over body armor with a ballistic helmet. He wore a gas mask and was tossing out tear gas grenades. Honestly someone with even a top end CCW pistol would have had a very very slim chance at best. You don’t bring a pistol to a rifle fight, and you sure as hell don’t when the target is pistol proof.
This dirtbag really was just too well prepared.
But as to the original article- who cares if he had 6k rounds of ammo? I doubt he fired off more than 100 all told. The other 5900 are a moot point.
Purchasing 6k rounds is pretty moot for any given tactical situation unless you happen to be toting a minigun.
Happened to you too, huh?
Two glocks and an AR15 is going to be around $2K
Not just to shoot and reload - but to do it in full body armor, in the dark, in a closed area saturated with tear gas, while masked!
Ask anyone with military training if this is an operation a first time gun shooter just up and does, managing to shoot 71 targets in the dark, with no training or range practice, with no dry run, based on reading directions from the manual or paying a video game
“Anyone hear about the Ft. Hood shooter lately? Murdered people several years ago in an action of domestic Islamic terrorism”
No, because as Mark Steyn pointed out, Allahu Akbar is Arabic for, “Move along, nothing to see here.”
3K rounds of .223 will be about $1.5K
3K of 40SW will be another $1K
4 guns is a massive arsenal?
I’m assuming this writer is a Limey Tw@t. They (Limies) have no appreciation for the concept of 2nd Amendment rights.
OTOH, they’re probably still smarting from what a bunch of armed Scots-Irish did to them a couple on centuries ago.
Glocks will run you maybe $600 each or so (might be less, I don’t price Glocks since I don’t like them) for the .40S&W pistols. A 12 gauge should be another $500 or so. The AR price could be all over the place. Last gun show I saw some as low as $800 (a bit under). Those large magazines run you around $100. 6K of ammo is going to be fairly expensive (I can get reloads for around $1800 for that many).
Let’s claim a ballpark of less than $5k.
If one goes to the range once a week, and expends 100 rounds of ammo at each visit, then 6,000 rounds is a year's supply. There's lots of gun owners who have more.
The punk could have charged it all with no intention of ever paying the bill.
If this guy had been a Mexican drug lord, our government would have GIVEN him the guns.
Then he could have shot 100 Mexicans (and a border agent) and the media would not just be silent, but cover it up.
Thus is life in Obamaland. We fear citizens and count terrorists as friends. :)
At some point they may start to describe his residence as a "compound".
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We Freepers seem to have terrible problems with tragic boating accidents that cause us to lose thousands of dollars worth of arms and ammo. My condolences to you..
Exactly right! But, brace yourself for an all-out assault on the 2nd Amendment now to include the one and only Mitt Romney aided by John McCain and other, oh, so reasonable GOP’ers.
It was shockingly easy to legally buy not one, or two, but three cans of green beans last week!
4 firearms with ammo for each is not a “massive arsenal”.
Also they don’t note there’s no way in hell he’d be able to lug 6000 rounds around, much less fire them all. Nutball gave himself up with 5900 rounds left in his apartment.
Again all this example illustrates is INTENT IS EVERYTHING.
There are people who deliberately run people down in their cars and they have a legal driver’s license and legal plates. They may own multiple cars. Do we ban everyone else from driving or owning cars because of these idiots? Cars are efficient killing machines and you may not get caught, and if you do the sentences are less severe than if you used a gun.
It was shockingly easy to attack a theater full of dis-armed Americans.
And of course the DC Muslim killers.