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To: squarebarb

squarebarb, they DID just win.

I wrote this about two years ago:

I had the opportunity about 6 months ago to spend some time with a former USMC and Air National Guard pilot who retired as a Col. after 28 years. He had flown combat in Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. He had flown every fighter in the US inventory except for the F-22, and as I sat in his house looking at all the plaques on the wall, I could easily see this guy was Sierra Hotel. He’d gone to all schools, Top Gun, you name it. He had testimonials, pictures of him with famous people shaking hands, you could tell he made a mark.

His son was 16 years old. He was an impressive looking kid, crewcut, very athletic build, the most notable thing about him was his bearing. He met me at the door when I arrived, very polite and well spoken. He was wearing a USMC T-shirt, and looked like he was already in the Marines.

I spent about 4 hours with this career aviator, who had just retired from the military and was now flying Boeing airliners to Japan. He was a devout Christian, and told me that he had tendered his resignation because of the pro-homosexual policies he saw coming down from above. He did confess to me that the decision was probably easier for him to make because he was closer to retirement, and that there were going to be many younger officers like him who were going to be forced to make a decision that wasn’t going to be nearly as easy as his because they still had much of their careers in front of them.

He told me that he had made some DVDs dealing with the subject, but had not release them for public consumption. He talked to me about the homosexual agenda, and what their goals were. This man was not a bug eyed, spittle lipped fanatic. He was a well educated, religious man who spoke in even terms about this issue.

He spoke about his son. He said his son was trying to obtain an Olympic slot in judo, and had been preparing to join the Marines. He said that his son was very focused, and had his religion. His son stood off to the side as we spoke, listening intently to us, but not interrupting us. I must say that I was astonished that his son was only 16 years old. He seemed completely and totally mature and adult, in complete control of himself. His father turned to his son and said “Tell him what you’re reading right now.”

His son said that he was reading a book named “The Book of Chivalry”. (This Is a Write up from Amazon.Com: The Book of Chivalry is the most pragmatic of all surviving chivalric manuals. Written at the height of the Hundred Years War, it includes the essential commonplaces of knighthood in the mid-fourteenth century and gives a close-up view of what one knight in particular absorbed of the medieval world of ideas around him, what he rejected or ignored, and what he added from his experience in camp, court, and campaign. Geoffroi de Charny was one of the quintessential figures of his age, with honors and praise bestowed upon him from both sides of the English Channel. He prepared the Book of Chivalry as a guide for members of the Company of the Star, a new but short-lived order of knights created by Jean II of France in 1352 to rival the English Order of the Garter. Elspeth Kennedy here edits the original French text of Charny and provides a facing-page translation for the modern reader. Richard. W. Kaeuper’s historical study places both man and his work in full context. In the formal themes that give Charny’s book structure, and in his many tangential comments and asides, this work proves a rich source for investigating questions about the political, military, religious, and social history of the later Middle Ages. With this translation, the prowess and piety of knights, their capacity to express themselves, their common assumptions, their views on masculine virtue, women, and love once more come vividly to life.)

I think this book would’ve been difficult reading for me, and I consider myself pretty well read and well spoken. His son expounded at length for about 10 min. on this book. Not once did he hem or haw, pause, say the phrases “uh”, “ahh”, “you know”, or worst of all, “like”. He talked about the concepts in the book, and how the core of the book was about caring for people who are weaker than you are, and that was what chivalry was really all about. It was astonishing. The 16-year-old kid seemed so mature and focused, I hadn’t really met a 16-year-old kid like him before.

His father told me (while his son was standing there) that his son was going to wait until he was married to engage in a sexual relationship. He then turned to his son and said something to the effect of “This is his choice of his own free will, not mine. We’ve talked about this at length, and he has told me how terrible it would be if I were to go out and engage in promiscuous relationships, and how ashamed he, as my son, would feel about my behavior. As an extension, he understands how will it affect him in our relationship if he were to engage in such behavior.” When I looked at his son, he looked easily at and said with no discomfort, shame or reticence “It’s true.”

His father turned to me and said “My son had been planning to join the Marines. He had been considering making a career of the military. He has decided, because of these policies towards homosexuality, that he is not going to enter the military.” His father continued “These people, running things, implementing these rules and policies, would have my son at their mercy. Just think of what people like that would do to a young man like him. No, I did not influence his decision in any way. But if he had asked my counsel, I would have advised him of exactly the same course.”

I was stunned and dismayed. I looked at this young man who seemed incredibly talented, exactly the kind of person we want in our military. Thoughtful, educated, principled and mature. If you never read the book “Once an Eagle” by Anton Myrer, this kid would likely have been a living embodiment of the main character in that book, a book that is routinely read at the military academies to teach leadership.

Our government is driving away the kind of people our military has had, and needs the most, to continue to be the best in the world, and instead is openly recruiting and attracting the exact opposite. Taking all of this in was devastating to me. I saw immediately the devastation that these kind of policies regarding homosexuality are going to have our military.

I think that is why this particular incident hit me so hard.


38 posted on 07/21/2012 6:43:41 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: rlmorel

My son has some similar aspects to this young man. I have beeen talking with him for the past couple of years. We have seen the direction of the country, the horrific ROE that the military labors under, the rampant polictical correctness, the leftist leadership and the coming totalitarian rule and we both agree that the military is not in his future.

My son would have been a valuable asset to the military, but it will not offer him a future that he could stand by.


45 posted on 07/21/2012 7:48:11 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: rlmorel
who had just retired from the military and was now flying Boeing airliners to Japan.

Without a commercial ticket and thousands of hours of heavy multi-engine time, your anecdote, as described, doesn't pass the smell test.

50 posted on 07/21/2012 8:29:32 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: rlmorel

my sons, all honor roll A’s, my oldest never been on trouble,works out, very fit, in the sheriffs explorers, and ROTC, strives for promotion etc etc etc you get the picture.

He wants the special forces so bad, he wants to g the marines and then navy seals but he said that if obama wins or Romney does not change the polciy then there is no way he will ever share a shower, a sleeping bag, a room with cross dressing homosexuals etc.

why should he?

Why should he be forced to share a room, sleeping bag in survival training, a shower with a sick perverted nutcase and then have to put up with their mental illness, their comments, their actions and why on earth should he have to put up with seeing a man run around dressed as a woman acting like a woman?

Good young men are now saying no way to this and the military is nothing but a PC establishment which only makes the military weaker.

Men are different to women, men are stronger, men love women and vica versa because nature/God made it that way for the human species to carry on in the world.

Men wanting men is nothing but a sexual perversion, unhealthy unnatural etc but this Govt and those with a sickness mentally try and tell us that men and women are the same, men having sex etc with men is normal etc.

BTW I still have pals serving and one in Afghanistan told me in the past that many camps and bases around the world are having problems with homo’s now but the commanders are trying to keep it silent under orders he thinks from this Govt.

No surprise there

Oh and my sons have life long pals who have also said that there is no way they will join because of this homo crap


77 posted on 07/22/2012 10:24:51 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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