[Fred Garvin-MP]

I am sorry but I put up the wrong link. Here is what I was refering to. Scroll down to 6/12 to see what I am talking about.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/100438616/Vital-Statistics-Tape-File-Information-1960-1961-Natality-Tape-Files-for-the-United-States

[philman_36]

Now I find this highly unusual.
From the link... This is the specification manual for the United States birth data files for 1961 obtained via FOIA from the Department of Health and Human Services in 2011. If the information is so readily available online for 1969-1978 why did a FOIA have to be filed for 1961?
Shouldn't we all be asking ourselves why 1961 isn't an open public record available on the Internet as well?

[philman_36]

And I see that it says "Race of Child" there whereas the other distinctly says "Race of Father".

Is it possible that the "Doc" only got part of the information for 1961?
FOIA requests can be tricky beasts.

H/T to rolling_stone.

[edge919]

This is the form that I was referring to that is suspect. Philman just quoted the passage on race classifications and it doesn't jibe with this report. Here's are the race classifications from the 1961 Natality Report:

white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (combined), and "other nonwhite."

Here are the race codes from Dr. Conspiracy's "tape file":
White, Negro, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Filipino, Other Non white, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (NOT combined) ...

Where's "filipino" in the Natality Report paragraph?? Why isn't Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian combined for the tape files??

Further, I mentioned that the Dr. Conspiracy file came from a source that didn't even exist yet. The header on the tape file pages says "Division of Data Processing" ... here's a paragraph from the "U.S. Vital Statistics System: Major Activities and Developments, 1950-95 (Includes reprint of "History and Organization of the Vital Statistics System" to 1950)":

Effective in September 1963, NCHS was reorganized, with the Division of Vital Statistics becoming one of five operating divisions. This reorganization separated support activities, such as data processing and publication activities, from the substantive vital statistics program operations.

link to source

Dr. Nonsense's tape file, which is supposed to be for 1960 as well as 1961, but it jibes even less with the 1960 Natality Report's race classifications which classifies almost everything after Japanese as other non white.

[philman_36]

Here's something to consider from 1968...@ NATALITY TAPE FILE FOR CALENDAR YEAR 1968Race of Child (Determined from Parents race)
Each race item is coded as follows:
1 White
2 Negro
3 Indian (includes Aleuts and Eskimos)
4 Chinese
5 Japanese :“
6 Hawaiian (includes part-Hawaiian)
7 Other Nonwhite
9 Unknown or not stated (Race of parents only)

Yep, I'd like to some public record, not what the "Doc" has.

[Steven Tyler]

0bama has not released that record of his Birth Record.
That is one piece of information Sheriff Joe has requested, since Day 1.

Your link provides codes for the race of the BABY.

The 9’s in Zullo’s presentation refer to details concerning the FATHER.

Yow are mixing up the data collected concerning two different people!

Your link provides codes only for the Fathers age.
Did your FOIA return all other code mapping for Father metrics?
Can you file a more specific and relevant FOIA and get back to we Freepers.

Then again, all could be resolved if 0bama simply released his records and opened his history!