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To: xzins

This guy is a nutcase spoiler. Why? Because he sees Romney as the THREAT to America, not Obama and his blatant communism and hatred for America.

God help us. I wonder how much this is costing Soros??


5 posted on 07/24/2012 6:34:08 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA

The Constitution Party is now, and has been since its inception, devoted to conservative principles.

You can read them at http:www.constitutionparty.com

Your job is to hold Romney’s feet to the fire and get him to recant his foolish support for gay couples and for gay adoption.

He needs to come out strongly against RomneyCare.

He needs to say clearly that illegal immigration is never right and will be stopped, that amnesty won’t happen, and that in a time of terrible unemployment that he will not even support LEGAL IMMIGRATION.

Why take citizen jobs and give them to foreigners?


8 posted on 07/24/2012 6:37:56 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: EagleUSA; All
This guy is a nutcase spoiler. Why? Because he sees Romney as the THREAT to America, not Obama and his blatant communism and hatred for America.

BOTH Obama AND Romney are threats...

Of course, Obama has been quite horrendous and will continue to be if he wins. Obama & Romney are political twins

ALL:

Careful re: the apologetical approaches being used by Romney supporters. They will tell you...

1. ..."It doesn't matter what Romney does or doesn't embrace."

All that matters to SOME zombie-like "All But Obama" voters (a sheer euphemism for RomneybotISM) is to...
...hype you up on fear-steroids so that THE ONLY THING that matters is who Romney is running against.

They employ, plainly speaking, pragmatic utilitarian political relativism. Pragmatic utilitarianism, simply put, reduces the socio-political to our own pet-agenda bents. Sadly, Spring/Summer of 2012 has shown how Romney "Conservatives" have tended to fall into the same type of utilitarian logic Democrats used in trying to keep President Clinton in office during his impeachment times. Some Democrats then argued that it didn't matter whether Clinton was guilty of sexualizing his employee; all that mattered was not disrupting a "good economy." Per the pragmatic utilitarians, a candidate supposedly isn't to be measured based upon true conservative principles he/she embraces (or doesn't); rather his resume' is 100% irrelevant!

"The ONLY thing that matters," they tell you, "is that Obama is wrecking the economy. (Hence: 'Tis only Romney's main opposing candidate that matters).

The end-game result? This will, of course, strongly replace the GoP with RINOISM. Permanently. To use a racetrack term, this is called "backing the wrong horse." RINOS indeed are the "blue lights" (the name for the 1813 pro-British traitors) of conservatism. They -- and grassroots Americans who have been raised to embrace free-floating relativism and utilitarianism -- are the cultural capitulators of our times!

And they are rapidly gaining new converts every day via Romney's candidacy!

Thus, Romney and Obama are the "G men" twins (Romney is six of one and Obama a half-dozen of another). What once-upon-a-time drew criticism of Romney...for example, his pioneering socialistic healthcare, has now become "acceptable" to these "born-again" Romneyites! The truth is that BOTH Obama and Romney are EACH "G men" (both government men who have pioneered socialistic healthcare).

Likewise, they will tell you...

2. ...that it "doesn't really matter what candidates believe religiously" -- that there somehow (miraculously and prophetically) won't suffer ANY bleedover to ANY other spheres of life...that religion is somehow hermetically sealed and carefully compartmentalized. Sadly, this simply caters to reinforcing one 2012 book published -- that we are indeed a "nation of heretics."

Likewise, they will tell you...

3. ... minus any evidence, mind you, that somehow one heretical religious system (Mormonism) being injected mainstream into our socio-political culture trumps yet another heretical system (Islam) -- all in the name that Obama is somehow a current Muslim (no evidence offered); or that Romney is somehow an economic political savior whom we have to trust implicitly. Never mind that hell stands eternal for all such systems that cater to counterfeit salvation (BOTH MormonISM and Islam).

Finally, they will tend to ignore...

4. ...the potential bleedover of a candidate's vulnerability -- his gullibility -- to deception. They will talk of this character defect -- this sheer lack of discernment -- as if it wasn't part of a presidential "job description!" Yet in areas such as foreign policy, a candidate easily deceived is easily subject to "hook, line, and sinker" foreign policy major fiascos!

Simply put, we must weigh a candidate's level of vulnerability to deception -- for that transcends religious considerations. (And a candidate's level to deception in the most important area of his life, his faith, is an excellent indicator of potential other gullibilities)

We all have blinders to truth. Nobody has a monopoly on it. (But I would say the Bible has the best snapshot of God & humanity and the interaction between the two). Deception exists in the world, and when compared to trustworthy sources of truth (the Bible), deception exists as a continuum. If we agreed that a candidate belongs to the most deceptive cult in the world, then certainly that candidate's vulnerability to deception in the most important area of his life--his faith--serves as an indicator that he/she might be more easily deceived in public policy issues. "Vulnerability to deception" belongs on a character checklist! Even one 2007 poll indicated that 54% of Americans would not vote for an atheist.

A similar principle revolves around this: Other-worldly commitments (faith, whether it's 'True' faith or misdirected faith, IS a character issue!)

There's no way around this realization! To try to extract such other-worldly commitments from character is simply not possible. Time & time again folks try to hermetically seal "faith" & "religion" away from the public square as if folks checked their faith at the door or as if folks were neatly cut-up pie pieces. (Just try telling any voter that he should never weigh "character" into his/her voting-decision considerations).

12 posted on 07/24/2012 6:39:07 PM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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To: EagleUSA; xzins
This guy is a nutcase spoiler. Why? Because he sees Romney as the THREAT to America, not Obama and his blatant communism and hatred for America.

God help us. I wonder how much this is costing Soros??


Are you purposefully ignorant or just new to FreeRepublic that you do not know that Romney's record makes him out to be a complete Progressive Liberal?

The lessor of two evils, especially with Romney's horrible record, is still evil:


16 posted on 07/24/2012 6:41:34 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: EagleUSA

Perhaps he’s going for the record of losing campaigns running in the most parties.

Or he’s just another has-been politician who only cares about staying in the spotlight - no matter how small.


18 posted on 07/24/2012 6:42:05 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: EagleUSA; All
This guy is a nutcase spoiler. Why? Because he sees Romney as the THREAT to America, not Obama and his blatant communism...

Speaking of communism...right in Romney's Mormonism's ballpark...[See right column - chart below...since the Mormon "prophet" said in Mormon "scripture" that the communistic "United Order" was "everlasting"...the Mormon "prophet" could bring it back anytime...and Romney could help impose it upon the people...just as Romney imposed his socialistic healthcare worldview upon the Commonwealth of MA]

GOV. Romney Mormon 'scripture' & History Sources Quotes
ObamaCare based upon RomneyCare [SoConPubbie has posted some threads the week of April 16, 2012 along these lines]. In addition, what about Romney's $50 taxpayer-subsidized abortions -- and some $0 abortions -- he permanently imposed a Planned Parenthood rep into supervision of RomneyCare? (Since he vetoed other portions of that legislation, the Planned Parenthood rep section was also something he could have vetoed). For all of the pro-abortion damage done by Romney in the Bay State, see: RomneyCare Now Funding FREE Abortions: A Disqualifier for Mitt Romney’s Candidacy [Enabler Mitt] Mitt's Mormonism embraced socialism/communism under the 'United Order' – sacred commands still on the Mormon “scriptures” – depicted to be “everlasting” commandments of the Mormon god The Mormon socialistic/communistic “everlasting” nature of the “United Order” depicted in Lds “scriptures” – Doctrine & Covenants 82:18-19 and 104:1, 48, 53. Even Lds author George Givens described Brigham Young’s communist-built community of Orderville, Utah as “pure communism”: "When Brigham Young established Orderville and similar United Orders, John Taylor was less than enthusiastic. He realized that enterprises such as Orderville were pure communism and not the law of consecration. He made this plain after he became President, when in 1882 he sent an epistle to all authorities of the Church in which he bluntly stated: 'We had no example of the 'United Order' in accordance with the word of God on the subject...Our relations with the world and our own imperfections prevent the establishment of this system [i.e. the system of consecration and stewardship spoken of at times as the 'United Order'] at the present time, as was stated by Joseph in an early day, it cannot yet be carried out.'" (George W. Givens, 500 More Little-Known Facts in Mormon History, 2004, p. 169)"One of the most famous utopian books ever written was Looking Backward by Edward Bellamy, published in 1889. Some scholars believe Looking Backward had considerable influence in the making of Lenin's Soviet Russia. If this is true, then [ensuing Lds "prophet"] Lorenzo Snow and the Latter-day Saints must receive some of the credit--or blame. Hearing of the success of the United Order in Brigham City, Edward Bellamy made a special trip to Utah in 1886 to study its operation. There he spent three days with Lorenzo Snow, Brigham City's founder and forty-year resident. Impressed with the thirty to forty industries run by its 2,000 inhabitants and the vitality at that time of one of the most successful United Orders, Bellamy returned home and wrote his influential book." (500 More Little-Known Facts in Mormon History, p. 185). Way to go, 19th century Mormon leader-“prophets” of Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, John Taylor & Lorenzo Snow!!! They all unwittingly fueled Soviet Communism!

20 posted on 07/24/2012 6:43:54 PM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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To: EagleUSA
Social Conservatives were never going to vote for Romney.
Christians who withdraw from secular society and pretty much live within church activities were never going to vote for Romney either.

Goode is a magnet for votes that were not going to go to Romney under any circumstance.

It is sour grapes and pissing into the wind to whine about a constituency that those who go along with Romney as their nominee have calculated they don't need.

It is not as if these are people given to compromise, so expecting that they will suddenly change is pretty stupid. They have been up front and unwavering in their convictions for decades.

71 posted on 07/24/2012 7:12:39 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: EagleUSA
This guy is a nutcase spoiler. Why? Because he sees Romney as the THREAT to America, not Obama and his blatant communism and hatred for America.

There are posters here who believe the same. It boggles the mind.

91 posted on 07/24/2012 7:29:24 PM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: EagleUSA

these obamey conservatives remind me of the guy who keeps beating his wife all the while saying “you’re making me do this”.......we’re “making” them vote for obammey because they didn’t get their way in the primaries....boo hoo..


97 posted on 07/24/2012 7:33:00 PM PDT by cherry (/)
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To: EagleUSA

“Because he sees Romney as the THREAT to America, not Obama ..”

Romney and Obama are two side of the same coin...what’s pitifully left of the dollar.

The biggest threat to these United States is the two -party illusion the media continue to try to cram down the throats of We the People....7th century diaperheads wrapped with a fanbelt not-withstanding.

The consequences of bipartisan collusion to strip out the Constitution and Bill of Rights of the freedoms free men and free markets require to be productive are not solved with a Romney presidency. All a Romney presidency accomplishes is a kick of the can down the road a block farther than another , weakened Obama presidency can accomplish. That’s it. Period.


124 posted on 07/24/2012 8:25:42 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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