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To: xzins
Each State Party Shall establish and Maintain a national control system to regulate the export of munitions to the extent necessary to ensure that national controls on the export of the conventional arms covered ...

This treaty is talking about restricting the export of weapons ...

I can still go get a weapon if I want to ...

I would be more concerned that the other posters point is valid ... this would make it harder to arm our allies in the world against their enemies.

58 posted on 07/25/2012 12:42:45 PM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: dartuser; P-Marlowe; jazusamo
So, if you send a bullet outside our borders is that technically an "export" by any of the definitions of the word export? ex·port   /v. ɪkˈspɔrt, -ˈspoʊrt, ˈɛkspɔrt, -spoʊrt; n., adj. ˈɛkspɔrt, -spoʊrt/ Show Spelled[v. ik-spawrt, -spohrt, ek-spawrt, -spohrt; n., adj. ek-spawrt, -spohrt] Show IPA verb (used with object) 1. to ship (commodities) to other countries or places for sale, exchange, etc. 2. to send or transmit (ideas, institutions, etc.) to another place, especially to another country. 3. Computers . to save (documents, data, etc.) in a format usable by another software program. So, where in that document are quantities listed? And where does it say that the simple definition of ship/send to another place is not a definition that a lawyer will not use. And where, after John Roberts' twisting the constitution into his own personal pretzel a few weeks back, is the section that says a judge or lawyer can't make this mean pretty much whatever they want? And, finally, do you trust our judges?
62 posted on 07/25/2012 12:51:08 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: dartuser; All
Here's what folks are missing: " 2. Each State Party Shall establish and Maintain a national control system to regulate the export of munitions to the extent necessary to ensure that national controls on the export of the conventional arms covered by Paragraph a1 (a)-(h) are not circumvented by the export of munitions for those conventional arms. "- 3. Each State Party shall establish and maintain a national control system to regulate the export of parts and components to the extent necessary to ensure that national controls on the export of the conventional arms covered by Paragraph A1 are not circumvented by the export of parts and components of those items." Note that the state parties are required to have a national control system that regulate the export of guns and that assures that the EXPORT CONTROLS ARE NOT CIRCUMVENTED. It's a pretty small step from there for a federal judge to rule or for the ATF to pass administrative regulations that require registration of all firearm and ammo purchases in the US. Registration would be necessarily required by this restriction. Otherwise, the unregistered stuff could be exported and that would circumvent the export controls. How can a state know whether guns are being exported unless they know who has all the guns. This treaty is a very sticky wicket and will eventually lead to very bad things.
181 posted on 07/26/2012 9:32:03 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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