[PapaBear3625]

Nonsense. The death penalty is not a very strong deterrent the way *WE* have been implementing it. Given that it takes a decade to execute someone, whatever deterrence effect it would have on criminally minded people is severely diluted. The way it used to be implemented, it was a very good deterrent. Look at murder statistics from prior to the Courts becoming liberal.

The increase in CCW and Stand Your Ground is resulting in more criminals being killed by private citizens than are executed, and likely has a bigger effect on criminal behavior.

I think a large factor in the rise of crime is the increase of kids being raised by single moms, thanks to welfare (fatherless kids are more likely to turn criminal) plus the tendency of the overloaded justice system to keep letting criminals plea bargain themselves out of serious jail time until they finally kill somebody.

[DiogenesLamp]

The increase in CCW and Stand Your Ground is resulting in more criminals being killed by private citizens than are executed, and likely has a bigger effect on criminal behavior.

I think a large factor in the rise of crime is the increase of kids being raised by single moms, thanks to welfare (fatherless kids are more likely to turn criminal) plus the tendency of the overloaded justice system to keep letting criminals plea bargain themselves out of serious jail time until they finally kill somebody.

I agree completely. As a matter of fact, I just made this same argument to others on another website two days ago.

http://www.talk-polywell.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=88104&highlight=dice#88104