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Federal Tax Data Is Signaling A Big Jump In Jobs
Business Insider ^ | 07/27/2012 | Lee Adler, The Wall Street Examiner

Posted on 07/27/2012 9:36:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

As of July 25, Federal withholding tax collections for the prior 10 business days were 3.2% greater than last year. The 10 day total is extremely volatile however, so for that reason I also look at the 4 week moving average. It is up by 6% year over year in nominal terms. This number must be adjusted for compensation inflation to derive a real rate of change.

This chart compares current withholding tax collections with last year on the same date. It shows this year running well ahead of last year in nominal terms. The gap has been widening all year from zero at the beginning of the year.

The April bulge was related to non compensation withholding such as mutual fund withholding for capital gains distributions.

The BLS jobs data is based on payrolls for the week including the 12th day of the month. During that week, the real year to year increase in withholding taxes was 1.5%. To estimate the July headline payrolls number, multiplying July 2011 non farm payrolls of 131.407 million x 101.5% = 133.378 million. That would be an increase of 290,000 jobs versus the June number.

With everyone talking about how weak the economy is, that would be a big positive surprise. Will the number actually come in that strong? Given the vagaries of the jobs surveys, including the fact that the rate of change in weekly average earnings could be substantially different from last month’s 2.2%, it’s doubtful. I suspect a “beat” of some magnitude. The data will be released Friday, August 3

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bushtaxcuts; jobs; stupidity; taxes; unemployment; unexpected
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1 posted on 07/27/2012 9:36:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

All it takes is ONE bang up month of job growth before Nov 6th and the entire media complex will pump it up to the sky to help Obama.


2 posted on 07/27/2012 9:41:01 AM PDT by montag813
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To: SeekAndFind

Um....lol


3 posted on 07/27/2012 9:41:06 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (OWS = The Great American Snivel War)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Temp Summer Jobs


4 posted on 07/27/2012 9:41:56 AM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: SeekAndFind

Soooo..an increase of 290,000 jobs over June
Just gotta write it down to compare 8/3


5 posted on 07/27/2012 9:42:24 AM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: griswold3

The increase in jobs in due to all the campaign workers that the Obama campaign is hiring, just like during the census. They aren’t real jobs, just temporary work that probably doesn’t pay more than minimum wage.


6 posted on 07/27/2012 9:48:18 AM PDT by Eva
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To: SeekAndFind

Bet most of it is from the North Dakota and Texas Oil Patch.


7 posted on 07/27/2012 9:49:25 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: montag813

This could be bad for King Romney. It’ll help King Obama.


8 posted on 07/27/2012 9:52:57 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: SeekAndFind

Has there EVER been any doubt that the unemployment rate in the Oct/Sept timeframe would MAGICALLY drop below 8.0% no matter what it takes to fudge the numbers. Just simply eliminate a few million more from the workforce ane voila....


9 posted on 07/27/2012 9:54:13 AM PDT by RonboTex (Get off my lawn!!!!!!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Taking a 10 nday read on data to guage and then propose a job increase possibilty of the magnitude they suggest is insane.

Any kind of big increase would be viewed as total BS just because every other indicator on the economy is headed straight down.

Has anyone seen the latest ADP Payroll numbers? Not sure when they are released but they are somewhat accurate. This withholding tax thing is totally new to me.


10 posted on 07/27/2012 9:56:55 AM PDT by beenaround
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Statistical noise. How can you be the single greatest anti-business president in history, with policies that almost seem designed to crush jobs, and then pant anxiously for every subtle uptick in jobs numbers? Even if this is true, long term, Obama’s policies have and will kill job growth.


11 posted on 07/27/2012 9:59:26 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: SeekAndFind

If true, Obama will deserve none of the credit. Moreover, we have every right to view with extreme skepticism any sudden improvement of the government’s employment statistics.


12 posted on 07/27/2012 10:00:49 AM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: montag813

meanwhile a record number of people on food stamps does not signal a big jump in jobs.

“Big Jump in Jobs” that doesn’t even keep up with population growth and crap?


13 posted on 07/27/2012 10:01:33 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: montag813
Maybe Obama's cabinet members have finally started to pay their taxes.....


14 posted on 07/27/2012 10:02:14 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: SeekAndFind

The increase in withholding isn’t due to more jobs... it’s due to people cashing in their capital gains in 2012 since it appears that the captital gains tax rate will go up SIGNIFICANTLY in 2013. At a minimum they will go up by the 3.8% Obamacare Tax... significantly more if the Bush Tax Cuts are allowed to expire.

When you cash in stock or other investments which have a capital gain, there is withholding taken out for Federal Income Tax. This is where the increase is coming from.


15 posted on 07/27/2012 10:05:00 AM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Task 1: Accomplished, Task 2: Hold them Accountable!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I thought the auto industry didnt take a 2 week shutdown this year compared to last year.


16 posted on 07/27/2012 10:16:15 AM PDT by pas
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To: SeekAndFind

As with others, I expect the numbers to be manipulated to provide a boost to Obama starting in September. I hope the GOP has some knowledgable, sharp-eyed quants watching this data.


17 posted on 07/27/2012 10:18:18 AM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: So Cal Rocket

And reducing their tax-exempt contributions (401k etc.) because they’re desperate.


18 posted on 07/27/2012 10:27:35 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: SeekAndFind

maybe people are just increasing their withhholding to get ready for taxmageddon

I know I did


19 posted on 07/27/2012 10:30:07 AM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: So Cal Rocket
And don't forget people, like me, dipping into their 401K to make ends meet.
20 posted on 07/27/2012 10:33:32 AM PDT by Amntn
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