Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Chick-Fil-A Gay Flap A 'Wakeup Call' For Companies
NPR ^ | July 27, 2012 | Elise Hu

Posted on 07/27/2012 4:25:08 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Atlanta-based Chick-fil-A has long stood by its Bible-based roots, keeping stores closed on Sundays and donating millions to Christian causes. But when its president, Dan Cathy, went public to defend his company's stance against gay marriage, he set off a considerable controversy that has everyone from politicians to puppets weighing in.

First telling the Baptist Press his company supported the "biblical definition of the family unit," Cathy then told the radio program The Ken Coleman Show, "I pray God's mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we would have the audacity to try to redefine what marriage is all about."

The backlash spread swiftly. Boston's mayor pledged to block the chicken sandwich stores from opening in Beantown, a Chicago alderman said he'll try to stop a franchise from opening in his ward and the Jim Henson Co. cutoff its Chick-fil-A collaboration. Because it's a private company, it will be difficult to measure the bottom-line impact of all the attention.

Social Media Spread

Americus Reed, a marketing professor at University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School who studies brand loyalty, says Cathy underestimated what might happen once his comments to a niche religious publication and a syndicated radio show spread to a wider audience.

"I think this is part of the wake-up call for companies to understand that social media makes these decisions very, very risky," Reed said, "because it's much easier now for these messages to get out to consumers and consumers to virtually organize."

Support For Gay Rights

But other companies see the risks of going public on controversial issues differently. This year, a handful of big brands have made headlines for taking the opposite side — supporting same-sex rights and benefits.

"From time to time we are going to make a decision that we think is consistent with the heritage and the tradition of the company that perhaps may be inconsistent with one group's view of the world," Howard Schultz, Starbucks CEO, said at a shareholder meeting in March.

He explained the coffee giant's pro-gay positions were about making its employees proud — and aligning with its corporate values.

"Since we made that decision there has not been any dilution whatsoever in our business, and as you can see, shareholder value has increased significantly," Schultz said, citing revenue growth in the face of efforts like DumpStarbucks.com, led by pro-family organizations.

The lure of dollars from a lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender market is another likely motivator for taking certain social stands. Marketing firm Witeck-Combs estimated the LGBT market's buying power at $800 billion last year.

"I think it's a sign of the times to try and speak to other groups that potentially one has not had a connection with, and that's just part and parcel with trying to grow your market," Reed said.

But beyond the big bucks, corporate reputation specialist Sekou Bermiss says companies may be motivated to contribute to community good.

"More and more, you see firms that are trying to or feel obliged to certain issues in society, [to] do some greater good in society," Bermiss said.

Boycotts And Bottom Lines

Starbucks, Target and General Mills all stepped into the same-sex marriage issue by supporting gay marriage legislation in their home states. Each face ongoing boycotts led by the American Family Association and the National Organization for Marriage for doing so. The National Organization for Marriage said it's uncertain whether its boycotts are having an impact on businesses.

And after JC Penney hired Ellen DeGeneres as its spokesperson, the socially conservative group One Million Moms called for her firing.

"They wanted to get me fired and I'm proud and happy to say that JC Penney stuck by their decision to make me their spokesperson," DeGeneres said on her show. The retailer also started running Mother's Day and Father's Day ads featuring same-sex couples.

But Reed says companies that make a social argument for business gain should be prepared to change course if an outcry leads to longer term losses.

"Most brands are keeping their heads down because these are very controversial sorts of strategies. And it probably makes sense — good business sense — to not weigh in on these issues," Reed said.

That's a lesson Chick-fil-A seems to be learning quickly.

It declined requests for an interview, but in a statement said, "Going forward, our intent is to leave the policy debate to the political arena


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ceo; chickfila; corporateamerica; gaystapo; homofascists; homosexualagenda; npr; pedophiles; sodomhusseinobama
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-64 next last
To: nickcarraway
Considering the source for this article it is no small wonder I believe much of anything they are saying here. Like their leader, Hussein Obama, the great deceiver in Chief I treat most anything they say with the same of disbelief as I do Obama whenever I see his lips moving.

NPR has 0.0001% credibility with me or my family any more.

41 posted on 07/27/2012 5:07:00 PM PDT by Ron H. (Beelzebub or Satan? Not relly all that much difference in the end. Neither one is good for America!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

Excuse me NPR punks and punkettes, but I am unaware of any corporate policy at Chick-Fil-A regarding same sex marriage or any other gay rights agenda item. Mr. Cathy certainly has a personal opinion on the matter— but unless you can show me that Chick-Fil-A actually has a corporate position on the matter, maybe you should just stick to facts rather than shrill anti-Christian bigotry...


42 posted on 07/27/2012 5:07:48 PM PDT by Lysandru
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

Argument No. 1:

Marriage usually results in parents.
Parents always have issue, offspring i.e., children., by definition.
2 Gays cannot have issue ever and not usually ever.
Ergo gays cannot fit definition of parents.
Ergo gays cannot fit the definition and actual reality of marriage.
Ergo- gay marriage is a fallacy and an oxymoron.

Argument No. 2:

Parents always have issue.

Sometimes the issue turns out to be gay.

Gays always issue from straight parents.

Gays cannot be issued from “gay marriages”.
Straights cannot be issued from “gay marriages”.

Ergo gays are dependent upon straight marriages` parents for their issue into the world.

Ergo married parents in such a “straight” marriage union is superior
to so-called “gay marriage”.

Therefore, there is no such thing as “straight marriage”, because “straight marriage” fulfills the defintion of “marriage” completely.

Ergo both are are unequal and

Therefore “gay marriage” and marriage are not the same.

The inferior “gay marriage” aspires to be the equal of traditional marrriage but is unequal as in above— Therefore
“gay marriage” is a contradiction in terms.

Ergo, “gay marriage” is based on false assumptions.
Ergo, “gay marriage” is a falsehood in name and in fact.

Thus there is no such thing as “straight marriage” because it fulfills the entire definition of a marriage.

Argument No 3:
“Gay marriage” aspiring to be a part of the marriage defintion, cannot be that, because the part does not equal the whole.

Therefore “gay marriage” is also violating the unchanging principle of mathemathics wherein the Part does not equal the Whole.

Thus “gay marriage” is a complete falsehood.


43 posted on 07/27/2012 5:09:19 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (No such animal???? . what??? Who knew? .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MulberryDraw
Add Amazon to the fray. It will be interesting to see how this works out.

Yeah, I've seen those headlines as well already. Oh, well I'll be looking for some other online business to deal with from now on. I have spent a lot of money with Amazon up until now. I've already deleted their bookmark from my browser. Not another penny will be spent with a company that sides with moral decadence and corruption. Hey, it's my money and I'll spend it where I want and I wish not to spend with a company who jumps into bed with the looney queers and fags.

44 posted on 07/27/2012 5:13:47 PM PDT by Ron H. (Beelzebub or Satan? Not relly all that much difference in the end. Neither one is good for America!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

Because of all the pro-homo laws being passed/ruled, they think they have us on the run. They are in for a rude awakening.


45 posted on 07/27/2012 5:15:07 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MeganC
"My family stopped shopping at JCP after they went gay."

My grandfather knew James Cash Penney who enlisted his help opening the early stores across the country. He told me many stories about J.C. Penney's founder. I know for certain that not only is James Penney rolling in his grave, but my grandfather is rolling in his grave to see this great business slouching towards Gomorrah.

Today, I see J.C. Penney slouching towards Chapter 11 and they are seriously misguided if they think they can patronize the gay community enough to pull them out from disaster. They are playing a very big gamble in a game with serious consequences.

46 posted on 07/27/2012 5:16:58 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Digger
I have now - as of yesterday two within 5 miles & I never eaten at them. Starting this week they will see me - that's for sure.

The nearest one to me is 26 miles away but I will be making it a point to travel there as often as I can. I plan to drive there within the next day or so just to get some of their fine food and even get some to take home with me. I just realized that I hadn't eaten there for many years and that is about to change.

47 posted on 07/27/2012 5:18:28 PM PDT by Ron H. (Beelzebub or Satan? Not relly all that much difference in the end. Neither one is good for America!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: The Working Man

Sad thing is the fruit community does not frequent places like Chic-fil-A nor JC Penney. Amazon perhaps but they have lost my business as has JC Penney(I’ve purchased all of my kids school clothes there in the past).

Companies might want to stop and research who their actual customers are before jumping on the bandwagon of perversion. Most of this harrassment is just posturing to see how much control they can gain over middle America and what we think and believe.


48 posted on 07/27/2012 5:37:48 PM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: FrankR

The problem is that about half of the 98% have been convinced that homosexuality is a protected class and to oppose their wishes is to be a bigot.


49 posted on 07/27/2012 5:40:13 PM PDT by chargers fan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: stephenjohnbanker

In my part of the country we don’t have Chick-fil-A restaurants and I never heard of them until this flap. This week I had a stop over in Philadelphia and there was a Chick-fil-A in the food court. I ordered up a sandwich, waffle fries and drink and thanked the clerk. It was great and the line at C-f-A was longer than any other line in the food area.


50 posted on 07/27/2012 5:50:45 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Lysandru
its president, Dan Cathy, went public to defend his company's stance against gay marriage

Yeah, I noted this sentence in the lede. My recollection, too, is that Mr. Cathy was merely expressing a personal opinion.

51 posted on 07/27/2012 5:58:15 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Sir Napsalot
You know, I WOULD love to see what happens if npr doesn’t receive public funding.

Then they would be MSNBC Jr.

52 posted on 07/27/2012 6:00:30 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

The “backlash” they mention is devastating in my area. There used to be 4 or 5 cars in line at lunch time at the 2 Chick-fil-a’s near my house.

I have to go to another store in the strip malls around lunch 3 or 4 times a week. Since the “backlash”, cars are wrapped around the Chick-fil-a’s waiting for the drive-through. At one of them, I need to use a different entrance to the parking lot because my normal one is blocked by Chick-fil-a traffic. I didn’t understand what was going on until I read about the “backlash”. Now it makes sense.


53 posted on 07/27/2012 6:01:52 PM PDT by LostPassword
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ingtar

I pass one on my way home from work everyday . . . so this week, I have had my evening meal there twice - they make good salads with chicken if one is counting calories. The peach milk shake looked mighty tempting.

I am a new customer, and plan to make a stop there every week now.


54 posted on 07/27/2012 6:16:43 PM PDT by Bluebird Singing
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

Click

Help End FReepathons by Donating Monthly!
Generous FReeper Sponsors are donating $10 for every New Monthly Donor!
Please Sign Up to Donate Monthly!

55 posted on 07/27/2012 6:44:49 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

“But Reed says companies that make a social argument for business gain should be prepared to change course if an outcry leads to longer term losses.” -—

But this cuts both ways. Maybe they expect Chick-Fil-A to suffer losses with the gay backlash, but something very different may occur:

1. Chick -Fil-A may garner more, not less, support for this gay outcry
2. The rainbow agenda may have unwittingly planted the seeds of their own downfall: Chick-Fil-A may be a siren call for traditional and Christian people and businesses to start standing their ground.
Gay popularity in culture not only can decline, IT CAN EVEN BE REVERSED. And that is something the rainbow crowd ought not to forget.


56 posted on 07/27/2012 6:45:02 PM PDT by scottjewell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

Penny’s is paying the price for sinful deviance, and soon will not be in business.

Chick-Fil-A is thriving and will continue to grow.

Seems like an easy choice to me.


57 posted on 07/27/2012 7:04:34 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Figment

I’m planning to take an extra hour for lunch tomorrow so I can drive the 30 miles to the nearest one; sounds like I’d better add another half hour to wait in line. Never heard of the place before Menino’s little Screw Free Speech diatribe, but I figure to give them as much business as I can.


58 posted on 07/27/2012 7:07:22 PM PDT by Humble Servant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway
"Chick-Fil-A Gay Flap A 'Wakeup Call' For Companies"

Translation of this headline from the progressive, state-run media:

"Let this be a lesson to you other companies. If you aren't going to speak out in favor of our progressive causes, keep your mouths shut."

59 posted on 07/27/2012 8:05:46 PM PDT by Washi (Surviving the Zombie Apocalypse, one head-shot at a time.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bluebird Singing

The peach shakes are out of this world.


60 posted on 07/27/2012 9:36:57 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-64 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson