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To: moonshot925

To say that most immigrants don’t want a greedy govt dipping into their paycheck is to miss one of Buchanan’s (and other conservatives who are actually conservative on immigration) points...that the govt won’t be dipping into most of their pockets. Everyone pays payroll taxes, but most of the immigrants we’re talking about here will fall into that group of Americans who don’t pay any income taxes. They will be using more govt services than those who do pay income taxes. So in reality they’ll be some of the ones receiving services that are paid for by the money the govt took from other Americans.

As for your grandfather; well the differences between then and now are numerous and significant. The country is different in so many ways. For one thing, the federal and state governments of the America your German grandfather came to were not nearly as large as they are now. It would have been much harder for your grandfather to go on the public dole since there wasn’t a public dole (at least not like what we have today).

Also, the natives who ran the country your grandfather came too were not the guilt-ridden, diversity-worshiping leaders we have today.

And I’ve yet to hear a proponent of mass immigration, one who defends it on the ‘we’ve been here before’ grounds, reconcile their position with actual history. By that I mean the last great wave of immigration came to an end! The restrictionists won last time. Harding and Coolidge signed into law a series of restrictive immigration reforms effectively ending mass immigration. Then followed over 40 years of low-moderate immigration that lasted until Ted Kennedy’s immigration reform of 1965, which ended up doing pretty much everything its supporters said it would not do. Also during this lull from mass immigration we had the Great Depression and World War 2. The latter at least was a unifying experience like no other.

Today we have no similar unifying experience. And the current wave has no end in sight, unless Congress were to cut it off like it did last time. So we really haven’t been here before. To truly mirror the experience of the last great wave, we’d have to cut this one off too.

And you may not think that skin color matters, but clearly it does. The Democrats are masters of racial and ethnic grievance. Like it or not, the racial dynamics in this country say that the Democrats are the party for people of color. Most immigrants are people of color, so it’s easy to see where most will end up. The extended family reunification basis of most of our immigration will only reinforce this.

But even if you don’t buy anything I’ve said above, and if you really believe what you said, then why do immigrant communities vote the way they do? If you’re right, then why do most Hispanics and Asians vote Democrat?


124 posted on 07/28/2012 12:52:01 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: Aetius

Well spoken.


132 posted on 07/28/2012 2:09:47 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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