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United Nations Small Arms Treaty Not Dead
Digg ^ | July 29, 2012 | Kurt Nimmo and Alex Jones

Posted on 07/29/2012 2:39:32 PM PDT by IbJensen

Opponents arrayed against the United Nations’ anti-gun effort prematurely celebrated on Friday as the treaty stalled due to member states failing to reach an agreement on revised language in the text. The treaty went into limbo after the United States, Russia and China called for more time to consider revisions.

NGOs and gun-grabber groups portrayed the stall as “stunning cowardice” and a “staggering abdication of leadership” and attributed the supposed failure to the Obama administration. A nameless diplomat went so far as to claim the U.S. had “derailed the process” and complained that there is little hope the treaty will be revived after the U.S. election.

The U.S. State Department, however, said in a statement released at the conclusion of the negotiating conference that the effort will indeed be revived after the election in November. “While we sought to conclude the month’s negotiations with a treaty, more time is a reasonable request for such a complex and critical issue,” said State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland.

The extended timeframe will give Second Amendment opponents time to ramp up their propaganda campaign in favor of gun control following the suspiciously timed mass shooting in Colorado.

A number of establishment intellectuals – with CFR member Joe Klein leading the pack at Time Magazine – are now pushing “sensible” and “moderate” approaches to disarming the American people. Klein’s Time article, set to roll out on August 6, features a photo of a 100-round ammo drum of the sort James Holmes supposedly used in Aurora. Gun-grabbers in Congress have set their sites on extended round clips and other firearm accessories.

Although Bloomberg in New York and Chuck Schumer in the Senate and others are talking up outlawing armor-piercing ammunition and semi-automatic weapons, the establishment has responded to the bureaucratic snafu at the United Nations by playing possum or playing dead.

After the election finale in November and the installation of Romney or the re-installation of Obama as chief teleprompter reader in January, not only will there be a push for a new round of restrictive gun laws in America, but the stalled United Nations treaty will be dusted off and the bickering between nations will finally end with a gun-grabbing consensus.

As Al Benson, Jr., notes, careerist politicians are reluctant to press forward on legislation for fear of their cushy jobs. “As for the Senators, this is, after all, an election year and if they antagonize their gun-owning constituency many of them will be in big trouble, so they have to try to placate us, at least for now, until they get back into office. Then all bets are off, especially if Comrade Obama gets a second term (notice I didn’t say “wins” a second term),” he writes.

The corporate media has portrayed those of us concerned about a United Nations treaty outlawing our guns as conspiracy kooks and paranoids. They insist the Constitution trumps any internationalist treaty and there is nothing to worry about, so we need to relax.

But as CFR minion Joe Klein knows, the one-world government crowd has no respect for the Constitution and works relentlessly to undermine it.

“For decades, apostles of one-world government have endeavored to convince the American people that treaties, rather than the Constitution, embody the supreme law of the land. In 1952, Secretary of State and Council on Foreign Relations member John Foster Dulles told the American Bar Association that ‘Treaty law can override the Constitution…Treaties, for example…can cut across the rights given the people by the constitutional Bill of Rights,” writes Doug Book.

Book notes that even if the courts decide against the treaty after it is ratified in the Senate, Obama will undoubtedly move to ignore any such decision as he has done with Fast and Furious and other laws enacted by Congress, in particular his decision to ignore a law to deport illegal aliens.

“If the president says we’re not going to enforce the law, there’s really nothing anyone can do about it,” University of Pennsylvania constitutional law professor Kermit Roosevelt told Politico in June. “It’s clearly a political calculation.”

Disarming America is undoubtedly a front and center “political calculation” for the globalists.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndammendment; evilobamaregime; getusoutofun; whitehut
The President, and the Senate can ratify whatever Treaty they want. It doesn’t make it lawful when it violates the Constitution or our Natural Unalienable Rights. If they try to enforce it upon the People, then the People have Recourse through Congress or through the 2nd Amendment. If U.N. Troops are placed on U. S. Soil for Gun Confiscation or to abuse the Rights of the People. It is our Duty to Resist and Fight back. The Geneva Convention doesn’t apply. At that point all Politicians, Lawyers, Judges, Law Enforcement Officer’s, Agents and Employees of Alphabet agencies, and those So-called Americans (Those whom want Socialism and Control over our Rights) become Targets of We The People. Time to stand up as an American, instead of Sitting on your Laurels or being Yellow-belly.
1 posted on 07/29/2012 2:40:01 PM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

To the un and obama; come and get them.


2 posted on 07/29/2012 2:43:43 PM PDT by richardtavor
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To: IbJensen

The global communist community, including the UN, will not rest until the Bill of Rights are completely done away with. As long as the American people still have the Bill of Rights, communism cannot exist in this country.


3 posted on 07/29/2012 2:46:12 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The NRA did not create James "The Joker" Holmes. Harvey Weinstein's Hollywood did.)
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4 posted on 07/29/2012 2:46:30 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: IbJensen

I thought it ended a bit too quickly.

It’s not over - never is. It’s just one step back (to borrow a bit of Communist lingo). They’ll be back - maybe just in time for Senator Lugar to give this country his final “going away present”. I sure hope he has doesn’t have kids, or grand-kids - for if he does, they should DISOWN him.


5 posted on 07/29/2012 2:46:36 PM PDT by BobL ( It's easy to be a saint when you have nothing on the line)
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To: IbJensen

This shall not be infringed!


6 posted on 07/29/2012 2:48:21 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: musicman

Musicman, I’m going to write a check to Jim’s outfit here and your helmet photo did the deal.
Good job.


7 posted on 07/29/2012 2:51:16 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: ronnie raygun
I'm not worried about this treaty.

UN sycophants who try to take firearms from U.S.A. citizens should be, because that will be the final straw.

8 posted on 07/29/2012 2:51:33 PM PDT by KittenClaws
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To: IbJensen

I believe the State Department is inferring that after the eelction Obama will have more “flexibility”, that and the Lame Ducks may try an end run.

They can take their treaty and shove it where the sun don’t shine.


9 posted on 07/29/2012 2:58:04 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Joe Boucher

Thanks Joe!!!


10 posted on 07/29/2012 3:01:36 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: IbJensen; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...

And thanks to a treaty we signed and ratified, known as the Vienna Convention, all Obammy has to do is sign the treaty, and as long as no vote is held in the Senate, he can actually enforce it, according to Dick Morris. Harry Reid will refuse to schedule that vote.

Let’s make sure we get a Republican Senate this coming January, so that this treaty can be voted DOWN.

PING!


11 posted on 07/29/2012 3:12:33 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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To: IbJensen
“For decades, apostles of one-world government have endeavored to convince the American people that treaties, rather than the Constitution, embody the supreme law of the land. In 1952, Secretary of State and Council on Foreign Relations member John Foster Dulles told the American Bar Association that ‘Treaty law can override the Constitution…Treaties, for example…can cut across the rights given the people by the constitutional Bill of Rights,” writes Doug Book.

The US Supreme Court has multiple times since this statement ruled that no treaty can override provisions of the Constitution. Obviously the Court can fail in its obligation to enforce the plain provisions of the Constitution, but it doesn't need a treaty to do so.

Book notes that even if the courts decide against the treaty after it is ratified in the Senate, Obama will undoubtedly move to ignore any such decision as he has done with Fast and Furious and other laws enacted by Congress, in particular his decision to ignore a law to deport illegal aliens.

Perhaps, but let's not focus on the wrong issue. If this comes about, then the problem will be presidential criminality, not the specific treaty language. And if the President is determined to ignore the law and the Constitution, I fail to see why he needs a specific treaty to provide a pretext.

IOW the treaty doesn't really matter one way or the other.

12 posted on 07/29/2012 3:14:34 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: IbJensen
Just like the New Start treaty, —the 2010 Conservative win only added to their urgency to push through an unpopular agenda during the Lame duck session. Probably will included LOST and gun control.

No wonder they are preparring for civil unrest.

13 posted on 07/29/2012 4:08:26 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: IbJensen
I knew it.

Those bastards (Clinton, Obama, Democrats all).

14 posted on 07/29/2012 4:29:13 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party of NO! Nobama, No Way, No How!)
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To: IbJensen

Look out for this Lame duck session of the Senate! Dirty Harry Reid will be trying to push all of these horrible treaties through......


15 posted on 07/29/2012 4:36:58 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: Venturer

Let’s get to the election first Gentlemen and Ladies. After the establishment decipher the results, let them decide what their course of action will be. I don’t think Americans will be in the mood for gun control, other than polishing up on their accuracy. I suspect whomever is sent there will be busy enough trying to avoid taxmageddon and starting to unwind Commiecare.


16 posted on 07/29/2012 4:42:12 PM PDT by Kudsman (Repeal the 17th, restore the Republic.)
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To: Venturer

That’s how I understood it, Barry needed to wait for a time when he had more flexibility.

For those fantasizing about foreign blue helmets you’re going to be diappointed. It’ll be the local police, sheriff and various Feds who will come for you guns along with the NG and full time military. Think a repeat of NO. I expect most gum owners to simply roll over. Most of the rest will fight. Civil wars are brutal ugly affairs. Nasty stuff that are better avoided if possible.


17 posted on 07/29/2012 5:06:03 PM PDT by 556x45
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To: richardtavor

What is a reliable, easy to use and maintain gun model?


18 posted on 07/29/2012 5:40:02 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"Let’s make sure we get a Republican Senate this coming January, so that this treaty can be voted DOWN."

I wish I had your confidence in your statement.

But regretfully I have absolutely no delusions that a "Republican Senate"will pay nothing but lip service to get elected and will drop trou at the drop of a hat to "go along to get along" and keep their collective butts in power.

We can not trust our ruling class to keep their oath to the Constitution, I point to the last 30 years of legislative history of corruption, abdication of responsibility, and all out treason.

19 posted on 07/29/2012 6:58:21 PM PDT by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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