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Tables turned on Humane Society
Inland vally Daily Bulletin ^ | 07/26/2012 | Jim Matthews, Outdoors

Posted on 07/31/2012 1:16:37 AM PDT by Bullish

The Humane Society of the United States, an organization that does next to nothing for animal shelters but sues, badgers and lobbies politicians and businesses into adopting its radical animals rights agenda, is getting a taste of its own medicine.

In a little-reported ruling by a judge in the District of Columbia earlier this month, the HSUS is going to court to face charges under RICO statues on racketeering, obstruction of justice, malicious prosecution and other charges for a lawsuit it brought and lost against Ringling Brothers Circus' parent company Feld Entertainment, Inc.

After winning the case alleging mistreatment of elephants in its circuses brought by Friends of Animals (later merged into HSUS), the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA) and the Animal Welfare Institute (AWI), lawyers at Feld filed a countersuit with a litany of charges ranging from bribery to money laundering to racketeering. The attorneys for the animal rights groups asked the judge to dismiss all charges, but most remained because the evidence was overwhelming. So in early August, HSUS will be facing the music in a case that should attract the attention of hunters, ranchers, farmers and anyone impacted by HSUS' radical animal rights agenda.

District judge Emmet G. Sullivan did dismiss allegations of mail and wire fraud, but he did so only because Feld didn't have standing to file this charge. His ruling all but set the stage for a class-action RICO lawsuit against HSUS for misrepresenting itself in its fundraising campaigns across the nation. This lawsuit easily could bankrupt HSUS, put it out of business and send some of its top executives to prison.

For the first time, a group has fought back against the animal rights and environmental extremists who have been setting policy in this country for the past 20 years or more. Now, instead of getting rich off their lawsuits and fundraising schemes that misrepresent their efforts and accomplishments, they could be driven out of business. These groups have cost the farming and ranching industry jobs and raised the price of products we buy every day. They are behind the efforts to ban sport hunting across the nation. They have forced state wildlife and fishery agencies to waste countless millions of dollars on lawsuits and have spearheaded policies and legislation like the Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA), which has ruined livelihoods in recreational and commercial fishing without helping marine resources.

These groups operate with surly arrogance and believe they are above the law. Thankfully, that is not the case. Stay tuned.

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1 posted on 07/31/2012 1:16:47 AM PDT by Bullish
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To: Bullish
This lawsuit easily could bankrupt HSUS, put it out of business and send some of its top executives to prison.


2 posted on 07/31/2012 1:21:13 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: Bullish

I always wanted someone to open “Humane Society Burgers”


3 posted on 07/31/2012 1:28:28 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Bullish

I have also heard that when someone mentions the Humane Society in their will, the Humane Society can get rather aggressive about collecting a portion of the estate, or may even try to get the REST of the estate, thus knocking out other intended heirs.


4 posted on 07/31/2012 1:34:08 AM PDT by pbmaltzman
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To: Bullish; Salamander; Daffynition; Eaker; humblegunner; TheOldLady; freekitty

Most excellent news for all those genuinely concerned about animals, those who care for and rescue them and the local shelters who’ve been fouled by the stench surrounding HSUS.


5 posted on 07/31/2012 1:59:57 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Bullish
We've had nothing but trouble with our local humane societies. We tried to adopt a kitten and at the last minute, after everything was filled out and our 5 year old at the time had met and held the kitten, a director came in and said 5 was to young and took the kitten away. I said I knew how to take care of a kitten and a 5 year old and keep them both safe. Nope. As you can imagine lots of tears.

Another time, in another county, my FF hubby rescued a dog that had fallen through the ice. Beautiful German Shepherd that had obviously been trained. My husband stayed with him after his shift was over making sure he was warmed up, fed and made to feel safe. He fell asleep at the fire station. In swoops the humane society. They took the dog, and on the way out my husband said “he's such a good dog he obviously has an owner. I've had dogs my whole life and will adopt him if no one comes forward.” Two months later he was still sitting at the shelter and we went to visit. We began to fill out adoption paperwork until that director said my husband wanted him for the “wrong reasons”, he was “to attached” because he had saved the dog. Duh! My husband stormed off and began the search for the owners. He found them, they were elderly but the dog had been healthy so there was no reason not to return him. The couple had tried to find him. Even when they called him by name and he got all excited the “Humane” society acted like it might not be there dog. We made sure local media picked up the story at that point and he was returned. For the life of me I don't know why they didn't want these animals adopted or returned. We've never had any problem adopting an animal from other agencies.

6 posted on 07/31/2012 2:10:17 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: Bullish

This is huge...legally speaking

About time these nazi got a good dose of their medicine


7 posted on 07/31/2012 2:14:06 AM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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To: Bullish

Keep us posted. This will be fascinating. As for the charges that were dropped because they didn’t have standing, I hope that after this trial is over, they hand the evidence of wire and mail fraud over to the FBI for prosecution. The FBI will have standing to press those charges.


8 posted on 07/31/2012 2:14:13 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: shibumi

>> Most excellent news for all those genuinely concerned about animals, those who care for and rescue them

Good grief, they find me... and somehow know I’m a sucker... furry bastards!


9 posted on 07/31/2012 2:18:03 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Bullish

well maybe the Humane Society in particular is tainted, but people are called upon by God to treat animals with love nonetheless


10 posted on 07/31/2012 2:19:59 AM PDT by yldstrk ( That is corrMy heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Gene Eric

They ALL know us suckers, somehow. They must have some kind of radar.


11 posted on 07/31/2012 2:29:36 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: MacMattico
I've had dogs my entire life, and when our dear Bubba was killed by a vehicle, we went to the local shelter to see about replacing him.

I have rural property and all that ... trolley lines, etc and everything looked good for an adoption until they asked about my vet record.

Huh?

Your vet record ... the record of you taking your dog to the vet.

I've inoculated maybe one or two dogs in my life and never had any problems (usually start a distemper series and never finish, or I got one dog a rabies shot)

They were all mutts, healthy, fun and loyal until they died old.

Except Fuzzy ... he just quit after my first wife died in 2004.

Just stopped eating and being alive ... and willed his heart to stop.

I'm convinced of that.

12 posted on 07/31/2012 2:49:11 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: yldstrk

The best way to do the Lord’s work in regards to animal rescue is by supporting local no-kill rescue organizations.


13 posted on 07/31/2012 2:49:51 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: knarf

So sad about reading of the passing of your two dogs.

Fuzzy must have died of a broken heart when your wife had died.


14 posted on 07/31/2012 2:51:27 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Gene Eric
somehow know I’m a sucker.

So you're the guy P.T. Barnum was talking about, since the story is about the circus.

15 posted on 07/31/2012 2:51:38 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Bullish; Joe 6-pack; Slings and Arrows

PING this over to both Joe 6-Pack and Slings And Arrows.


16 posted on 07/31/2012 2:54:22 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: MacMattico

Short version:

Tried to adopt a Basset Hound from a rescue. I have had several over the years and am quite aware of their needs.

The ‘Rescue” which is basically run by a couple people out of their house, wanted my live story, financial info and wanted to do an inspection of my home. And later, ‘random home visits’ once adopted. There was a legally binding contract...with penalties for refusal.

I did not adopt.

I learned later the dog was later put down due to the fact that “we couldn’t adopt it out.” I cannot imagine why.

I have heard similar stories from people dealing with “Rescues”. My advice...STAY AWAY. Many of these people are power tripping ALF style nuts. I feel bad for the animals, but that is insane.


17 posted on 07/31/2012 2:55:24 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Biggirl
I'm convinced it was just that, a broken heart.

I've always had male dogs and they get SO attached to women.

18 posted on 07/31/2012 3:08:27 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Bullish

Good to see Ringling Bros go after the Animal Rights Nazis.

However, with all the PhonyCon RINO appointed judges...all up to the SCOTUS, not sure if Ringling will get favorable rulings


19 posted on 07/31/2012 3:15:42 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Remember when RINOs were something you hunted in Africa?)
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To: Bullish
I happened to be doing some research, and was able to find a copy of the opinion. At no charge to anyone, of course.

Make more coffee, it's 87 pages long.

20 posted on 07/31/2012 4:23:41 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Biggirl

no kill = no mercy


21 posted on 07/31/2012 4:25:35 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Norm Lenhart

I am certain that your intentions were good, but you need to understand that not everyone walks into an animal shelter with good intentions.


22 posted on 07/31/2012 4:33:07 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Oh I understand, but honestly, when these people who are supposedly trying to save animals from the needle make it harder (and require as about as much info) to adopt an animal than as a baby, there’s something that tells me there will be a needle in many dog/cat’s futures.

I agree completely that just handing over a pet to anyone isn’t too smart for the rescues, but they really need perspective. I do not think a credit history and contractually obligated home inspections are anything but ridiculous. And handing over credit info to someone of the animal rights variety is dangerous for the adopter at best.


23 posted on 07/31/2012 4:50:44 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Bullish

-————— This lawsuit easily could bankrupt HSUS,———

It’s already interesting. If RICO can be used to prosecute wacko leftists it will be a boon America has needed for years.


24 posted on 07/31/2012 4:58:16 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Old Sarge; shibumi


           

I have known for years that the HSUS was a leftist front group, a fact that they
have proven over and over again by their insane behavior. I cannot express how
much this delights me, for it is about time that they got their comeuppance.

The Friends of Animals merger kind of breaks my heart, though. We got my
Rocket the Cat from them in 1997. In spite of that, he is a good boy.
25 posted on 07/31/2012 5:05:55 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Bullish

Once sport hunting is banned, the arguments change from “You don’t need an AK-47 to shoot rabbits” to “You just don’t need that shotgun/rifle/pistol at all anymore.”


26 posted on 07/31/2012 5:15:24 AM PDT by motor_racer (Pete, do you ever get tired, of the driving?)
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To: Biggirl

>>The best way to do the Lord’s work in regards to animal rescue is by supporting local no-kill rescue organizations.<<

And some of those are animal hoarders in the guise of “rescue”.
“No kill” in itself is cruel. Some animals need to be put down.

Our experience with the Michigan Humane Society is wonderful. “No-kill” rescue, sold us a 150.00 kitten that was infected with feline leukemia. Four weeks, one devastated 11-year-old, 500.00 dollars and a euthanized kitten later, we found out that they “caught and released” the mother, to infect other cats in fights.

No thanks.


27 posted on 07/31/2012 5:24:44 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: Norm Lenhart

>>I have heard similar stories from people dealing with “Rescues”. My advice...STAY AWAY. Many of these people are power tripping ALF style nuts. I feel bad for the animals, but that is insane.<<

Post of the Day!
Read my kitten story above.


28 posted on 07/31/2012 5:27:34 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: Biggirl

true


29 posted on 07/31/2012 5:49:35 AM PDT by yldstrk ( That is corrMy heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: netmilsmom

I am so very sorry to have read what happened to you.

I volunteer at a local cat/kitten no-kill rescue shelter. We have had many sucessful placements. The cats and kittens are vetted. When there is an ill cat/kitten in which there is no hope for recovery, then and only then the cat/kitten is put down. This organization is not hugh, been around for over 30 years, but it does have standards.


30 posted on 07/31/2012 5:57:36 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Gene Eric

It’s that SUCKER sign on your forehead that is visible only to four legged furries.


31 posted on 07/31/2012 5:58:33 AM PDT by khelus
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To: yldstrk

Thank-you.


32 posted on 07/31/2012 5:59:59 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: motor_racer

Well look for more folks then to “hide” their guns.


33 posted on 07/31/2012 6:02:06 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: 1rudeboy

Often the no-kill shelters are the ones who do the full vetting.

Simply just correcting you.


34 posted on 07/31/2012 6:07:04 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

There are no-kill shelters that allow their animals to suffer, and there are “kill” shelters that do not. I’ve observed that when you tell someone you work for a “kill” shelter, they assume that you put-down animals that cannot find a home. So you must correct them and say, “no, only the ones who are in pain.”


35 posted on 07/31/2012 7:17:53 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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36 posted on 07/31/2012 7:21:44 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Sorry to hear about your bad adoption experience.

I was at PetCo one Sat to buy dog food. It was dog adoption day and while waiting in line to pay for my purchases I listened to a person from a rescue group (don't know which one) trying to talk a family into adopting a dog.

It was a 3 or 4 year old pitt bull and the family had 3 small children. One of the kids was terrified of the dog and while I stood there I could hear the dog growl softly at the child.

I left and they were still talking. It is one of the times that I am sorry I kept my opinion to myself.

37 posted on 07/31/2012 7:57:57 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Bullish

I’m waiting for the next installment!
Anybody got popcorn?


38 posted on 07/31/2012 8:01:52 AM PDT by Monkey Face (I have kleptomania, but when it gets bad, I take something for it.)
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To: MacMattico
For the life of me I don't know why they didn't want these animals adopted or returned.

Because they've got the mentality that:

1. No one is good enough; only they know enough to adequately care for an animal, or

2. No use of domestic animals - the animal is better off dead than "enslaved" to you.

The only way it even begins to make sense is if you think of it as religious fanaticism.

39 posted on 07/31/2012 8:07:04 AM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I’m sorry for your sad experience and especially for the poor dog. However, I must correct you on one point you made. Golden Retriever Rescue of Wisconsin (GRROW.org) is a wonderful group where I got my big fur ball 11 years ago. Yes, they do ask a lot of questions, but I just laughed aboutit. I had to write an essay on by perfect “forever” dog of my dreams. However, they actually paid no attention to it. Following is an approximate transcript of the conversation:

“Hello, Mrs. D, we have found a dog we’d like you to meet.”

“Oh, how exciting. Is it a female?”

“No, male.”

“Is he four?”

“No, about 1 and a half.”

“Is he blonde?”

“No, red.”

“Is he housebroken and does he have good hips?”

“Yes.”

“Well, I don’t know. We wanted a 4 year old female, blonde dog.”

“You really should see this dog. There is no obligation, and he’s something special.”

Well, they were right about that! He was (and is) something special. He set one paw on my front porch and I fell instantly in love with him. He was so evenly dark in color that his eyes matched his fur — a rich, copper color. He was wild and untrained, but he learned fast and really has been no trouble at all. We went through dog school together and agility training until I got too old to keep up with him. He is white-faced now, but we still love him to pieces.

He’s traveled all over the country with us, but I had to make a recent trip to CA and had to leave him at the kennel because of the circumstances surrounding our trip. He was so happy to see me when I picked him up it was like one of those “dog-greets-soldier” videos, except I’m a lady (and not a war hero).

GRROW is a wonderful organization that has found homes for more than 1000 dogs. They have reunions about twice a year. All of the dogs are held in homes in foster care -— not cages. Everybody can bring back their dogs for a dog party. So, all rescue organizatons are not created equal.

Don’t get me started on the “Poodle Rescue” that my daughter dealt with in NY. They don’t even see the dogs — it’s all done by telephone, and there seems to be some funny business going on. She eventually got a wonderful, 8 year ikd dog that was a mess — unwashed, unclipped, infected, etc. She enjoyed him 8 years until he died. Getting her 2nd poodle was the same thing all over again, and she finally got a 1 year old pup from a breeder with health problems.


40 posted on 07/31/2012 9:11:07 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: Norm Lenhart

BTW, have you ever been to a dog party? It’s been several years, but we played party games the last time I went. If you can imagine being in a room with more than 50 Golden Retrievers (and trying to juggle a plate and eat your brat) you can get a sense of what it is like.

Anyhow, I have to tell you about “dog bowling”. They set up 2 liter empty plastic soda pop containers in the configuration of bowling pins. The competitors are supposed to walk, or run, their dogs through the bottles. The dog that knocks down the most bottles wins a prize. Sounds easy?

Not so fast.

Nearly ALL of the Goldens avoid the bottles. Mine jumped OVER all of them to great laughter. “We can tell that’s an agility dog,” they shouted. Most of them carefully picked their way through the maze of bottles and knocked over very few. I think the winner knocked over only 2 (clumsy dog).


41 posted on 07/31/2012 9:21:08 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: Norm Lenhart
I have heard similar stories from people dealing with “Rescues”. My advice...STAY AWAY. Many of these people are power tripping ALF style nuts. I feel bad for the animals, but that is insane.

It depends on the individuals running that local group. I have had very positive experience with the Cocker Rescue of Va and know of others that have as well.

42 posted on 07/31/2012 9:25:05 AM PDT by verga (Every single cult leader has believed in Home schooling, think about it.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Sounds like a scenario one of my friends had with a bird rescue group. She had to sign a document saying she would feed the bird only one certain type of food, which, coincidentally, the rescue group sold. Since she couldn’t buy it anywhere else, it had to be purchased from them. When she didn’t show up to buy the food, they called and harassed her in a big way, but she didn’t back down. They had required multiple interviews and a home visit.

Years ago we had a couple of litters of Basenji puppies and I was VERY picky about the homes they went to, but nothing to the extent of some rescue groups.

The Arizona Humane Society has been great to work with. The first cat my son bought died after just 2 weeks. It probably had a congenital heart defect that wasn’t detected. When we returned to the HSociety, they were very sweet and allowed my son to pick another cat, who we have spoiled rotten.


43 posted on 07/31/2012 9:33:26 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie
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To: Norm Lenhart

Here in Colorado PetSmart is associated with “Every Creature Counts”. They have such Nazi requirements to adopt few do. ECC also never answers their phones, decisions take days and even weeks. etc. Word is they also put down more animals than they adopt out, although they claim “zero kill”, just like PETA that kills most of the animals they take in, too. They would rather bitch to us about animal care and then kill those animals than let them be adopted outside of what they think their care should be.


44 posted on 07/31/2012 9:48:22 AM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: Bullish

Finally. Not only is this group a criminal enterprise, but were well known for capturing peoples pets and killing them in the Norfolk area for years. This truly is a domestic terrorist organization that needs to be brought down hard.


45 posted on 07/31/2012 10:04:05 AM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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To: PA Engineer

PETA is in Norfolk, not HSUS - but your point is well taken.


46 posted on 07/31/2012 10:37:00 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

That couple sounds like identity thieves at best. People who are suspicious and paranoid are always untrustworthy themselves. They should be investigated and prosecuted if anything is not on the up and up.

Hubby and I are getting on, and we probably can’t promise a kitten or puppy forever, so our four cats will probably be our last pets. There are two local shelters, Humane Society of [our county] and Alchemy Acres. We visit them and donate food and cash, and we know their procedures. They are no kill, but they would never let a hopelessly ill or injured animal suffer. Neither of them is affiliated in any way with the HSUS or any other leftist “animal rights” group.

BTW, animals have no rights. We have been directed by God to perform good animal husbandry. There are no rights for animals; there are only responsibilities with regard to their welfare for us. It’s a simple as that.

PETA, HSUS, and others are an abomination on the earth. I hope what is happening to HSUS happens to every dang one of them that tortures and kills animals and puts donations into their own pockets and into the coffers of communist causes.


47 posted on 07/31/2012 11:01:33 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Gabz
PETA is in Norfolk, not HSUS - but your point is well taken.

You are correct, however I have grown skeptical that they are separate organizations. PFRM has also been directly tied to these groups. We need to look deeply at the discovery phase of the HSUS trial. I would not be surprised if the RICO investigation draws in PETA and PFRM. JMHO.
48 posted on 07/31/2012 11:35:08 AM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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To: Bullish

It is SO about time.


49 posted on 07/31/2012 12:28:18 PM PDT by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: MacMattico

Some rescues and shelters are wonderful and amazing groups of people and others... Well, you know. They believe that only they can take care of animals and they think animals are exactly like people only better. Being involved in the dog world since the 1980s I have seen it all. I love animals, but large numbers of Americans are crazy. There, I said it.


50 posted on 07/31/2012 12:33:23 PM PDT by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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