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To: Melas
This is where you guys lose not only me, but the majority of the population. Forcing a 12 year old to carry daddy's likely deformed offspring to term is not the moral high ground you think it is.

A few thoughts on this:

EVERY human being should have the right to life.

An unborn baby IS a human being.

This unborn human had NOTHING to do with how he/she was conceived, so killing him/her is forcing capital punishment on the MOST innocent life of all.

In many cases of incest, the father of the unborn human is the one who INSISTS on the abortion to hide his crime.

Forcing a young girl to undergo an abortion is adding another layer of injury to her ordeal. Aborting the baby does not UNDO the crime committed on her but it DOES release the perpetrator from criminal prosecution and often frees him to CONTINUE the abuse on her as well as other girls.

Abortion is an act that NEVER leaves the girl/woman unscathed. It is something that will haunt her the rest of her life and she will "see" her child in the face of every other child she sees. It does NOT take away the pain of incest, it only adds to the pain. At a young age, girls who undergo abortion are at extreme risk of injury - that could make her sterile and unable to EVER have a child - and death. Any girl that CAN get pregnant can also carry the child to term safely with good medical care.

Saying that a baby from incest is "likely deformed" is passing judgment again on who should and should not be allowed to live. There is NO proof that incest ALWAYS causes birth defects, but is a birth defect any reason for killing someone? Did the baby ASK for it? Are we going to allow only perfect babies to live?

The "moral high ground" is in realizing that it is GOD that opens and closes the womb and ALL life happens because HE allows it to happen. Murder is NEVER a moral high ground. That innocent baby that comes from such a crime deserves to be loved and wanted and the equally innocent child that carries such a baby deserves to be supported and loved and to give that new life within her a chance to live the life God has planned for him/her with parents that will love and cherish her/him. This choice, in the long run, IS the moral high ground and it affects genuine healing to know that what was meant for evil, God meant for good. Good CAN come from evil.

It is looking at the big picture that enables me and others to realize that abortion MUST become unthinkable before it can ever become illegal. We aren't there yet and may never be, but a deep respect for life cannot exclude those who are the most innocent - the inconvenient unborn.

80 posted on 08/07/2012 8:40:42 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums; Melas
It is looking at the big picture that enables me and others to realize that abortion MUST become unthinkable before it can ever become illegal. We aren't there yet and may never be, but a deep respect for life cannot exclude those who are the most innocent - the inconvenient unborn.

Bless you boatbums, Well said, and perfectly true and good. Murder doesn't solve anything, but causes even greater hurt and is evil. People who think that they have the right to kill innocent human beings, making excuses, do not understand that only God has the right to allow for one of His own innocent ones to die and come home to Him.

They obviously do not understand spiritual principles. God is good, all powerful, and well able to cause good to come out from great evil, providing that we trust and obey Him. Far worse for it would be for a girl to live with the horrible knowledge that her own sweet little baby was murdered, because nobody would take the responsibility of loving it, than to give birth to a beautiful child, knowing that she loved it enough to let it live.

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Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to [his] purpose.

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Romans 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded [is] death; but to be spiritually minded [is] life and peace.

Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind [is] enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

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Exdodus 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.

81 posted on 08/11/2012 8:38:19 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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