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To: GraceG

I thought Federal law didn’t apply to the reservations....

So, Which is it? It’s federal government’s fault or INDIAN law that keeps them from owning their own land and homes???

Ooops or were you puposefully trying to mislead?


7 posted on 08/03/2012 10:03:41 AM PDT by Freddd (No PA Engineers)
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To: Freddd

[ I thought Federal law didn’t apply to the reservations....

So, Which is it? It’s federal government’s fault or INDIAN law that keeps them from owning their own land and homes???

Ooops or were you puposefully trying to mislead? ]

I am blaming the Beureu of Indian Affairs. which has heavy ties to the federal government. Also federal policy towards reservations which is nothing more than overt socialism.


12 posted on 08/03/2012 10:12:22 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Freddd
So, Which is it?

I'm not too familiar with other tribes and the relationships but there is also the state vs fed problem. Indian land and Indians it seems are in federal trust. The rez system was at times used to protect Indian lands then to force the people to leave them. Laws preventing people from repairing their own homes was one way ensuring that an area would degrade. If they people would not give up the land, they would not see the revenue from the natural resources mined from the land.

Then there is the state. My Navajo grandparents were not allowed to vote. The states did not allow them to vote until the 50's. I do not know exactly what state they were from, the Dinetah is large. My grandfather and other family members fought in WWII for a country they loved and government that denied them the right to vote.

14 posted on 08/03/2012 10:20:07 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Freddd

A wide body of Federal law does apply to reservations. FBI and US Marshals are there too. The land held in collective is pretty much a tribal law, on top of federal law.
While they are called “nations” they are really more like wholly economically dependent states or US territories.

The federal govenment decided long ago that reservations were cultural collectives. This is why the tribes could not sell off their land. First, they had no desire to with no example of an ownership society. And the US Govt decided that rather than assimailation, the indians needed to stay on one parcel of land. That wouldnt work if they could sell it off.

Essentially, most reservations are essentially collectives, where the indians are wards of the state. The exceptions are found in Oklahoma and a few other places that are structured around ownership of property. It’s a little dishonest or uninformed to imply that the land ownership rules at Pine Ridge did not come from the US government.

But whatever the cause, it would take decades to undo the damage there. The dependency mindset is so ingrained, that it is probably worse than the average Russian had after 80 years of communism. Every advocate of the US govt running our lives should visit Pine Ridge.


19 posted on 08/03/2012 10:26:23 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Freddd

We furnish huge sus of money to these tribes. It’s the tribal leaders who are keeping the books.


27 posted on 08/03/2012 10:44:24 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Freddd

Trust me (being you don’t seem to know) Federal laws do apply on Reservations and in fact many State Laws do too. Sometimes a little research helps before posting on a subject you are not familiar with .


44 posted on 08/03/2012 11:23:05 AM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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