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Pilotís Bill of Rights awaits Presidentís signature (fat chance)
GA News ^ | 8/3/12 | Wood

Posted on 08/03/2012 12:39:01 PM PDT by pabianice

WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Pilot’s Bill of Rights, which made it through the legislative process in “record time,” according to an official with the Experimental Aircraft Association, has been approved by both the Senate and the House of Representatives and is now on President Obama’s desk awaiting his signature.

The president has 10 days from the time it made it to his desk on July 26 to sign the bill, said Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.), a member of the Senate General Aviation Caucus and a CFI with more than 10,000 hours who introduced the bill.

“We have every reason to believe he will sign it,” added Doug Macnair, EAA’s vice president of government relations.

Sen. James Inhofe at this year’s AirVenture.

Once approved, the bill will “radically change your ability to defend yourself” if caught in an FAA enforcement action, he noted.

The heart of the bill is fairness, according to Kathy Yodice, an aviation attorney who has worked with the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association. “We all want to respect the FAA rules,” she said, “but for a while that was getting eroded because of injustices allowed in the system.”

The Bill of Rights grew out of Inhofe’s own encounter with the FAA’s enforcement system. In 2010, Inhofe landed on a closed runway at Port Isabel-Cameron County Airport (PIL) in Texas. A builder and developer, Inhofe said he had landed at the airport “more than 300 times.” While PIL is uncontrolled, Inhofe did have flight following and as he approached the airport in his Cessna 340, a controller said he was “cleared to land,” according to the Senator, who acknowledges that that was unusual.

That was when Inhofe saw there were people working on the first 2,000 feet of the 8,000-foot runway. He landed beyond the workers, but frightened many of the workers. “People on the field called the Washington Post and it just broke my heart,” he said at AirVenture.

It took him four months to get the voice recording from the controller clearing him to land — “and I’m a U.S. senator,” he said. “I never saw the evidence against me and the FAA couldn’t show me the NOTAMs closing the runway.”

“If you are challenged by the FAA, you are completely helpless,” he continued. “You are at their mercy.”

Introduced at last year’s AirVenture, the Pilot’s Bill of Rights seeks to remedy “the serious deficiencies in the relationship between general aviation and the FAA, and ensures that pilots are, like everyone else, treated in a fair and equitable manner by the justice system,” he said.

The Bill of Rights covers several key areas. Perhaps the most important is that in an enforcement action against a pilot, the FAA must show the pilot all evidence 30 days prior to a decision to proceed with an enforcement action. “This is currently not done and often leaves the pilot grossly uninformed of his violation and recourse,” Inhofe noted.

It also makes contractor-run flight service station and contract tower communications available to pilots. Currently, if a request is made for flight service station information under the Freedom Of Information Act, it is denied because the contractor is not the government, per se, he said. “However, the contractor is performing an inherently governmental function and this information should be available to pilots who need it to defend themselves in an enforcement proceeding,” he said.

Another big change the bill brings for pilots is that in the appeals process, the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) must conform with the Federal Rules of Evidence and Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.

Previously, the NTSB operated under something called “statutory deference,” which meant that NTSB administrative judges and officials had to defer to the FAA’s expertise in appeals cases. “Too often the NTSB rubber stamps a decision of the FAA, giving wide latitude to the FAA and making the appeals process meaningless,” Inhofe said.

The bill also allows a pilot to appeal the NTSB’s decision to a federal district court judge. This is important because a review by the federal district court is “de novo,” meaning the pilot gets a new trial with the ability to introduce evidence and a new review of the facts, he added.

These changes to the appeals process are critical, according to Inhofe, who notes that it should create some fundamental changes at the beginning of the entire process.

“When we have access to appeals, it changes the attitude of the guy in the field,” he said, noting an FAA employee will be less likely “to harass” a pilot if he knows that his work is going to be checked. “They will be more fair,” he predicted.

The bill also requires the FAA to improve the NOTAM system, which would involve simplifying the system as well as archiving NOTAMs in a central location. “This will ensure that the most relevant information reaches the pilot,” Inhofe said.

“The NOTAM system after 9-11 is getting more and more convoluted,” Yodice said. “Pilots would make innocent mistakes, but they were being treated like ordinary criminals and it all could have been avoidable.”

Making innocent mistakes on the FAA’s medical application is another area where pilots often find themselves in trouble. That’s why the Bill of Rights requires a review of the medical process, including a revamping of the 8500-8 form.

“That medical application is antiquated and is asking questions that are no longer relevant,” Yodice said. “When the FAA finds something wrong on the application — even if it is just a mistake — they will seek to revoke all the pilot’s licenses and ratings. That could have been avoided if the form was clear.”

Non-profit general aviation groups will make up an advisory panel for the review of the medical process, as well as the NOTAM system.

Once the bill is signed, all of the provisions except the review of the NOTAM system and medical process will become effective immediately, according to Inhofe. The bill requires reports from the advisory groups on the NOTAMs and medical within a year.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: federalaviationadmin; gunsonplanes; nationalsecurity; notam; ntsb; pilots
Does anyone really think Obama will sign this? And give more freedom to citizens?
1 posted on 08/03/2012 12:39:08 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice
no

nor do i think he will stand up to the eu trying to tax everyone in the name of ‘saving the planet’

http://www.nbaa.org/news/pr/2012/20120731-058.php

2 posted on 08/03/2012 12:52:22 PM PDT by sloop (don't touch my junk)
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To: pabianice

“Does anyone really think Obama will sign this? And give more freedom to citizens?’


Does not matter if the Marxist signs it or not. At any point in time the federal government can do anything it wants. Just ask Rep Pete Stark of CA. If the constitution no longer stops the scum that exists in the federal government what makes Inhofe think another piece of paper will do/

Give more freedom to citizens???????????? First our government is not created to give freedom to citizens we give the government a few defined rights and responsibilities.

In fact they are taking 100% guaranteed constitutional rights every time they interfere with the ruling elite’s objectives.

What protection does Inhofe think will be guaranteed with this piece of a$$ wipe?

We have a right to have our borders protected and they do not do it.

We have a 4th amendment right against searches without a warrant yet that is being violated 100,000+ times per day in airports, government buildings, train stations...

We have a right to life but the government has determined that you only have a right to life upon exit of your mother and even then the dark lord wants to allow murder of a baby shortly after birth.

We have a right to arms which shall not be infringed yet infringed that right has been and continues to be minimized.

We have an alleged right to our property yet the government either can take it or reduce its worth.

What we need is a mass destruction of most laws stripping the federal government of any powers not designated by the constitution. If that were done Inhofe would not need freedom of information (because we already had it thanks to the founders).


3 posted on 08/03/2012 12:59:53 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Wurlitzer

so your plan is what? suicide?


4 posted on 08/03/2012 1:10:03 PM PDT by sloop (don't touch my junk)
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To: pabianice

I once took a friend of mine for a tour of fort Pierce International Airport where I got my licence.
As we walked the entire place I asked 11 different pilots, Mechanics etc what they thought about the F.A.A.?
Each and every one I asked had a horror story to tell about their anal ways. not onw had a good thing to say.


5 posted on 08/03/2012 1:51:01 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: pabianice

Vest Pocket Veto!


6 posted on 08/03/2012 2:22:37 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: pabianice

The FAA has destroyed a ridiculous number of pilot’s lives. Few pilots can afford to get to the point to appeal to the NTSB, and indeed, as this article states, the NTSB just rubber stamps the FAA’s decision. Being married to a pilot, I’ve heard some absolute horror stories of lives of commercial pilots destroyed by the loss of their livelihood by the vindictive, power crazed FAA. It’s downright evil. It also destroys the health of the lower level people that work for them because of the extreme stress of dealing with the extreme evil on a daily basis.

The FAA also has a racket going with the HIMS program.

“HIMS is specific to commercial pilots and coordinates the identification, treatment and return to the cockpit of impaired aviators. It is an industry-wide effort in which companies, pilot unions, and FAA work together to preserve careers and further air safety.”

Someone drops a dime on a pilot for a bit too much drinking, they become a permanent revenue stream because they never get out of the program, and only approved FAA psychiatrists and counselors are used, usually only one of each in the major cities where it’s offered, so they’re referring to each other. So a pilot gets sent to a shrink, who of course determines they need treatment and puts them in the program. I’m betting they get a nice kick back. Pilots never get out of the program. So take care guys drinking with your pilot buddies when you aren’t flying. There might be a gay guy that’s mad you spurned his advances or an FO/FE that doesn’t like you as a captain.


7 posted on 08/03/2012 2:33:30 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: pabianice

“The president has 10 days from the time it made it to his desk on July 26 to sign the bill, said Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.), a member of the Senate General Aviation Caucus and a CFI with more than 10,000 hours who introduced the bill.”

This guy has some SERIOUS experience in this area - hopefully things work out for him. For if they don’t, it sends a really sad message regarding this country.


8 posted on 08/03/2012 3:50:04 PM PDT by BobL (Cruz'd to Victory - July 31, 2012)
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To: sloop

“so your plan is what? suicide?”


Rather snarky and low class response. Sure you don’t belong on the DU site?


9 posted on 08/04/2012 6:44:59 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Wurlitzer
i’m sure

but suspect you belong on the ron paul sites

10 posted on 08/04/2012 10:01:05 AM PDT by sloop (don't touch my junk)
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To: sloop

“but suspect you belong on the ron paul sites”


Never visited any Ron Paul site so again you have proven to not only be wrong but intellectually incapable of nothing more than ad hominem attacks.

At least I went to significant lengths to state my position but you immediately pulled a Saul Alinsky. Once someone does that it is proof they lost the debate.


11 posted on 08/04/2012 10:16:46 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Wurlitzer
no - actually you spewed your fatalistic glenn beck ‘everybody sucks’ bs that was not related to the topic

have fun wallowing in it - the rest of us will be fighting to get conservatives elected and holding their feet to the fire

12 posted on 08/04/2012 11:07:09 AM PDT by sloop (don't touch my junk)
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To: Wurlitzer
Agreed with your great post. Apparently Obama did sign the bill as outlined here.
13 posted on 08/10/2012 12:19:44 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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