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Chick-fil-A, Gay Marriage, and Your Grandchildren
Chron.com ^ | Aug 2 2012 | Chris Ladd

Posted on 08/04/2012 8:58:11 AM PDT by scottjewell

It’s hard to read about...Civil Rights... without playing a game of ‘what would I have done?’ ...

This spring when Obama described his “evolution”... I felt like I could relate...

When... people rise up and demonstrate their commitment to their rights... how do you say no to them in good conscience?

... one is inevitably reminded of the Civil Rights Movement. The pattern of non-violent resistance adopted by Martin Luther King had a complex beauty, operating at one time on so many levels...

The Civil Rights Movement placed the burden of black suffering squarely on the plates of people all over the country who otherwise felt that they had no part in Jim Crow oppression. It forced citizens [to choose sides]...

I can still make an esoteric argument that gay marriage is meddling or social engineering or whatnot, but I have lost my ability to put my soul behind it. Maybe you can sit across the table from a beloved friend and tell them that your straight family is more legitimate, more right, more legally and politically appropriate than theirs. Perhaps you can look into the eyes of people you care for and respect and explain that providing their children with the full legal protection of an official family would threaten something...

I am not going to do that. Eat your sandwich alone.

Before you put down that shake and reach for your Bible, let’s make something clear. According to the Bible, marriage is a sacred covenant between one man, one woman, his additional wives, his slaves, his wives’ slaves, his concubines, virgins he’s caught raping, and any women he happens to capture in battle...

This week that line of dead-enders stretches out the door of the Chick-fil-A.

Enjoy that sandwich. Your grandchildren will be so proud.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.chron.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chickfila; homosexualagenda; romney; romneyagenda; romneymarriage; romneyvsclerks
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Very poor political argument made by GOPLifer Chris Ladd. He is buying into the whole ridiculous "gay rights = civil rights" argument they have been exploiting, and which smart people showed they weren't buying on Aug 1:


1 posted on 08/04/2012 8:58:19 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

So then, because he doesn’t want to tell a homosexual face to face that he opposes homosexual marriage, that means he now favors homosexual marriage.

And, because of the “right side of history” argument, which has become part of the homosexual marriage message, he would be ashamed to look back years from now and say that he was against homosexual marriage.

Wow, those sound like deep reasons to decide to be in favor of homosexual marriage. (sarcasm)


2 posted on 08/04/2012 9:09:19 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: scottjewell
"gay rights = civil rights" argument they have been exploiting,

Unless the pervs can prove that screw came lose in their brains before they were born, I'm not buying it. Until then, these freaks are more like asylum patients than anything. Isn't it time we sent them back to the nut house so the American people and their children can live safety and in peace again?
Good people in this country can't even walk the streets safely these days, especially the innocent young boys. Parents have to hover over and protect their little loved ones every minute. If you simply believe homosexual sodomy is a mental disease (which has led to AIDS and other deadly diseases), these animals go rabid and start trying to eat your flesh. They have to be beaten off with a stick.

3 posted on 08/04/2012 9:12:04 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: scottjewell
"Maybe you can sit across the table from a beloved friend and tell them that your straight family is more legitimate, more right, more legally and politically appropriate than theirs."

The critical, egregious mistake you make is calling "whatever" a "family."

4 posted on 08/04/2012 9:14:46 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I agree with your sarcasm.

And the gay agenda keeps on hammering away with the “you will go down on the wrong side of history” mantra, and this guy bought it hook, line, and sinker.

So we are the loony bigots now, and we can eat those sandwhiches alone. Sorry, not feeling any shame.


5 posted on 08/04/2012 9:18:29 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell
You know, if you think about it, that cartoon does make sense for public hygiene reasons. AIDs is transmitted by body fluids. The homos are mentally ill, and mentally ill people do bad things. An AIDs homo wouldn't think twice about licking or spitting on the nozzle of that drinking fountain.
When good people are out on the street acknowledging their faith, homos spit on them. If one of those homos has AIDS, that spit becomes a deadly weapon.

The worst mistake America has ever made was to release them from the mental institutions. Behavior like this is what kept them there. The American people and their children were much safer because of it.

Giving them different drinking fountains and bathrooms is not a "racial" issue. It's a public safety issue. The segregated fountains would stop the dangerous spreading of their spit, and the private bathrooms would keep their orgies, nasty body excretions, AIDs filled used condoms, and boy rapes apart from the bathrooms used by the normal segments of society.

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6 posted on 08/04/2012 9:22:20 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: scottjewell

And of course the comparison with blacks. How does one put gays in the same category with an ethnic group, and ethnic group whose civil rights are specifically protected by the Constitution? In segregating blacks, the states were continuing to abide by the standards of Dred Scott, a decision of the supreme Court which the country intended to overthrow when ratifying the 14th Amendment. But the courts consistently told us that the terms of that amendment did not apply even to women. So by what logic, is it supposed to apply to a group identified only by their sexual behavior? One can respect the civil rights of prostitutes even as we outlaw their behavior. Ditto, adulterers and pedophiles.


7 posted on 08/04/2012 9:22:52 AM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: fwdude

Right. Sit across from a gay and tell him “his family” - which family? The one he created using an egg donor and a surrogate womb, from a woman who had to sell herself for his big gay bucks? And the child who will have to be told this by his two Daddies? Maybe such a family is NOT a good idea after all???


8 posted on 08/04/2012 9:27:09 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

Homos already have equal marriage rights. Homo men are free to marry any woman who will have them just like normal men are. Homo women are free to marry any man who will have them just like normal women are.

What the mean spirited militants want is a new right. Granted, this new right would apply to normal people as well as to perverts, but it is still a new right. The right to marry applies to everyone equally NOW and there is no need to create a new right.

Blacks weren’t asking for new rights. The civil rights movement was about access to existing rights.


9 posted on 08/04/2012 9:27:51 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: scottjewell
So we are the loony bigots now, and we can eat those sandwhiches alone. Sorry, not feeling any shame.

During the Chic Fil A Appreciation day, no one ate alone. Americans came together as a family for the first time in decades.

During the homo street on orgy Friday, a few radicals stood on corners, but they were, without a doubt, the loneliest people in the world.

Hopefully, someday, they'll see the light and readmit themselves voluntarily. It would be the best thing they could ever do for themselves - and their country.

10 posted on 08/04/2012 9:28:13 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: scottjewell
Two questions for Mr. Ladd and Margulies: Is it possible for a man or woman to be celibate?
Is it possible for a negro to change the color of their skin?

Sorry, not a civil rights question dudes.

5.56mm

11 posted on 08/04/2012 9:28:23 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: concerned about politics
An AIDs homo wouldn't think twice about licking or spitting on the nozzle of that drinking fountain. When good people are out on the street acknowledging their faith, homos spit on them. If one of those homos has AIDS, that spit becomes a deadly weapon.

HIV is not spread by saliva...but I rarely use drinking fountains due to the myriad of other germs which are spreadable.

12 posted on 08/04/2012 9:29:57 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: scottjewell

When you eat your Chick Fil-A alongside those who support the restaurant & its CEO’s defense of traditional values, you’re never alone, despite what this idiot columnist thinks.

Yesterday’s nationally proclaimed gay kiss-in was a pathetic fizzle. Gives hope for Election Day.


13 posted on 08/04/2012 9:31:59 AM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind. Deus vult!)
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To: trailhkr1
HIV is not spread by saliva...

Not true. All there needs to be is a touch of blood in their mouth from their partners anal tearing, and you're dead.

14 posted on 08/04/2012 9:33:13 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: elcid1970

Yep, agreed. And yeah, what a dud yesterday turned out to be.


15 posted on 08/04/2012 9:36:54 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: trailhkr1
AND....homosexuals admitted to having eaten or handled the feces of their partners. Their spit is definitely a health hazard.
16 posted on 08/04/2012 9:39:05 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

Well, they sure did fizzle out yesterday.
And true aug 1 was a great display of unity and solidarity.

And if they had just stopped at civil unions, this point of anger wouldn’t have been reached. As the old adage says, “The bird who flies up attracts the hunter.”


17 posted on 08/04/2012 9:40:16 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell
Marriage is about family. When you look at all the countries of the world throughout history, marriages are for the purpose of creating a family.

Marriage is a religious institution. If you look for the marriage records of your ancestors, you find them recorded in churches and other religious institutions. That is the ONLY place you can find them.

Marriage is about stability. The children in our country are in trouble. The ones that come from single family homes are in the biggest trouble. The children from same-sex homes crave the attention of the gender of the missing parent. They know something is missing instinctively.

Same-sex marriage is not the end-goal. I am not sure what it is, but I can guarantee if they win this one, the next step in their fight will start immediately; as it was with DADT in the military.

The media has brainwashed a majority of the country into believing the Christians and Republicans hate homosexuals. The people who saw the Chick-Fil-A appreciation day as a movement of hate were told that by the media. Show me one picture of hate expressed that day. There could be one, but I haven't seen it.

Love the sinner, hate the sin. They are attacked marriage and we are defending it peaceably.

18 posted on 08/04/2012 9:43:09 AM PDT by shatcher
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To: concerned about politics
Not true. All there needs to be is a touch of blood in their mouth from their partners anal tearing, and you're dead.

If they had blood in their mouth, their own saliva kills the virus ...their spit landing on you will not give you aids. Their blood coul give you aids but would have to enter an open cut on your body which is nill. You are really pushing straws here. It is near impossible/extremely difficult to get HIV other than sharing needles from drug use and anal sex and some vaginal sex.

19 posted on 08/04/2012 9:44:25 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: scottjewell

He’s also buying the left’s definition of “love”. If he really loved his friend he would not stand aside or encourage that person’s destruction.

The fact is those who have no love in them will abandon others to whatever destructive winds blow. It’s no skin off his nose.


20 posted on 08/04/2012 9:45:25 AM PDT by Varda
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To: scottjewell
Before you put down that shake and reach for your Bible, let’s make something clear. According to the Bible, marriage is a sacred covenant between one man, one woman, his additional wives, his slaves, his wives’ slaves, his concubines, virgins he’s caught raping, and any women he happens to capture in battle...

God's Divine plan for marriage is one man and one woman. The best thing you can say is that HE allows multiple wives. He does not require them, (Sorry Mormons and Muslims). He simply does not make an issue of it. But they are not His intention for us.

Matthew 19:8-9 8 (Jesus) said to them, “Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality,[d] and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.”

Jesus seems to be saying that some things were permitted under Old Testament law, but they were not the Lord's plan for us. When he says that if you divorce your wife and marry another you commit adultery, I think that implies that you shouldn't have another wife.

21 posted on 08/04/2012 9:46:41 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: scottjewell
Marriage is about family. When you look at all the countries of the world throughout history, marriages are for the purpose of creating a family.

Marriage is a religious institution. If you look for the marriage records of your ancestors, you find them recorded in churches and other religious institutions. That is the ONLY place you can find them.

Marriage is about stability. The children in our country are in trouble. The ones that come from single family homes are in the biggest trouble. The children from same-sex homes crave the attention of the gender of the missing parent. They know something is missing instinctively.

Same-sex marriage is not the end-goal. I am not sure what it is, but I can guarantee if they win this one, the next step in their fight will start immediately; as it was with DADT in the military.

The media has brainwashed a majority of the country into believing the Christians and Republicans hate homosexuals. The people who saw the Chick-Fil-A appreciation day as a movement of hate were told that by the media. Show me one picture of hate expressed that day. There could be one, but I haven't seen it.

Love the sinner, hate the sin. They are attacking marriage and we are defending it peaceably.

22 posted on 08/04/2012 9:47:37 AM PDT by shatcher
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To: Varda
Exactly. And the left's portrayal of Chick-Fil-A supporters is more and more capitalizing on the civil rights meme, rather that morality which you rightly point out.
23 posted on 08/04/2012 9:48:50 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: shatcher

Right all the way...


24 posted on 08/04/2012 9:50:20 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: sportutegrl
Every time someone in the OT has more than one wife it turns out bad. If your doubt this, show me the example where it turns out well.

Just because God didn't forcibly prevent a man from marrying more than one wife, did not mean he allowed it. The Bible contains a written history of what men did even when it was contradictory to God's plan.

25 posted on 08/04/2012 9:53:13 AM PDT by shatcher (Judges 17:6b Everyone did what was right in his own eyes.)
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To: trailhkr1; concerned about politics
Never mind HIV, saliva and blood (unless they're your wait-perthson)

It's the handle of the water fountain, or bathroom door, or whatever.

There is a myriad of other disgusting contagions carried by the boy-raping horn-dogs, and who knows where those hands have been?

26 posted on 08/04/2012 9:55:46 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: concerned about politics
AND....homosexuals admitted to having eaten or handled the feces of their partners. Their spit is definitely a health hazard.

Pretty slim...if not nil. Most std's and diseases in general other than common colds (which can be caught airborne) for instance need actual skin to skin contact.

27 posted on 08/04/2012 9:58:33 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: scottjewell
Another reasonably predictable consequence, largely unanticipated by Reformers in the 1960s, was the coming agitation to expand the original matrix: Thus demands--some already fulfilled--to add "Sexual Orientation" to the list of forbidden considerations in employment & housing. Since we do not have a policy of snooping into people's bedrooms anywhere in America, forbidding discrimination on the basis of "Sexual Orientation" is not just about forcing people to hire or rent property to those whose conduct, people of Biblically based faiths consider to be an "abomination." It is about forcing people to hire or rent to those who have elected to flaunt offensive conduct. Those who keep private things private, are really not affected one way or another.

The above is from the current feature at my Conservative Resource Center (Social Reform: Confusion or "Unintended Consequences?".)

Of course, the whole concept of "Civil Rights," is misunderstood by most of the population--no accident, since it has seldom been objectively discussed in the media. What are referred to as "Civil Rights" differ from what the Founding Fathers referred to as "Liberty," in that they flow not from the Creator, but from Legislative Acts, that actually infringe on the natural rights in one's own property or community. Rejecting the demands & values of the "Civil Rights Movement," is not the same thing as being anti-any group That is always a false argument.

William Flax

28 posted on 08/04/2012 10:01:39 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; concerned about politics
There is a myriad of other disgusting contagions carried by the boy-raping horn-dogs, and who knows where those hands have been?

Yes, could get e-coli for instance ..wash your hands and you will be all right. I always use a paper towel when opening the bathroom door of a public bathroom.

29 posted on 08/04/2012 10:02:55 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: trailhkr1

I don’t know what you might catch, but the filthy pederasts carry hepatitis, syphilis, and gonorrhea and many other diesases.

I usually pull my hand inside my sleeve to grab the door coming out of a public restroom, a problem in warm weather.


30 posted on 08/04/2012 10:08:11 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Ohioan

Thank you for that. Excellent stuff, too bad more people are not as astute as you.


31 posted on 08/04/2012 10:11:25 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
I usually pull my hand inside my sleeve to grab the door coming out of a public restroom, a problem in warm weather.

I would not do that..better to carry in paper towel..I HATE bathrooms with no paper towels and only have those air dryers.

32 posted on 08/04/2012 10:15:38 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: scottjewell
... one is inevitably reminded of the Civil Rights Movement. The pattern of non-violent resistance adopted by Martin Luther King had a complex beauty,

Non-violent, eh? Apparently, this writer didn't see this video. He also must've missed the graffiti on a Chick-Fil-A restaurant and all of the obscenity-filled anti-Chick-fil-A comments on the internet, too.

The Civil Rights Movement placed the burden of black suffering squarely on the plates of people all over the country who otherwise felt that they had no part in Jim Crow oppression.

So, in this twisted piece of logic, the writer thinks the two issues are related.

33 posted on 08/04/2012 10:33:12 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: trailhkr1

Well my way, if the house catches fire, and we run outside and it’s raining, at least I’ll have one foot dry.

Your way, you’ll be standing in the puddles in your stocking feet.


34 posted on 08/04/2012 10:36:27 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: scottjewell
There is so much estrogen in our water supply and misunderstood/misdirected adolescence testosterone, the gay section of the Bell curve has widened.

The result is what we are living through now, a sort of "gay bubble" not unlike economic bubbles, such as the housing bubble or tech stock bubble or political bubbles like the one for the One, Bubble Head Obama.

Sooner or later we figure it out and the bubble pops. (Addios, BHO!)

For the gay bubble, the Chick-Fil-A dust up is an aneurysm, likely fatal.

35 posted on 08/04/2012 10:45:51 AM PDT by revo evom
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To: revo evom

Good way of putting it!


36 posted on 08/04/2012 10:51:36 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Tired of Taxes

“So, in this twisted piece of logic, the writer thinks the two issues are related.”

Right, he’s bought into the whole civil rights analogy. To him, Jim Crow and Chick-Fil-A are all of one cloth.


37 posted on 08/04/2012 10:54:35 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Tired of Taxes

THANKS for linking to that article; I added homosexual agenda keyword so it will list in that too.


38 posted on 08/04/2012 10:57:10 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell
The problem with the cartoon is it's a lie. Just like most of the rhetoric out of the gay movement. And NO, gays wanting marriage to be between any and all groups is NOT civil rights.

Blacks fought for the right to vote, to eat in the same restaurants and to sit where-ever they wanted buses trains, public transportation ... among other things. Their cause was just...

There is not ONE restaurant in the United States that will not serve gays, there is NOT ONE place in the United States that has 'separate but equal' schools, libraries, drinking fountains, hotels, etc... It's all a lie.

What gays want is for marriage to become meaningless. If two men can marry - why not three men? Or one man and 18 wives?

Blacks were discriminated against wrongly - so why can't a man marry his dog? That's what liberals think of as 'logic'?

The argument will come down to what 'groups' can marry and at that point marriage will be destroyed. We have the right to object. Conservatives have 'human rights' too..

Gays can create domestic partnerships - and if they put enough thought into it, who knows, maybe some straights will switch over to 'domestic partnerships... there are options. One option they can't have is to destroy the best most natural way to raise children and to keep a society strong... a man, women and children as a family...

39 posted on 08/04/2012 11:01:23 AM PDT by GOPJ (Political correctness is simply George Orwell's Newspeak by a non-threatening name. FR- Bernard Marx)
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To: GOPJ

Absolutely right in all you say here.
If only more people could see this. It’s so obvious to us, why not to them? I suppose the Left has been being brainwashed for so long, dating back to the ‘60s, that it is susseptible.


40 posted on 08/04/2012 11:22:03 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: concerned about politics
You're going too far - you're using liberal logic - irrational logic - and it doesn't support our side. Gays aren't mentally ill - in this case, they're just wrong. It's wrong for gays to decide that 'marriage' can be between any human configuration.

I don't want two men to marry each other - or 5 men to marry each other. I don't want women to marry their sisters. Or boys to marry their mothers. The exact same argument gays are using in this article would also apply to any of the above groups.

And no, just because people are against it, doesn't make it the civil rights movement of the 60's.

We need to draw rational lines. We don't need to pick up on their irrational logic and hate. So please, don't use liberal logic against anyone. Leave that to them.

41 posted on 08/04/2012 11:22:20 AM PDT by GOPJ (Political correctness is simply George Orwell's Newspeak by a non-threatening name. FR- Bernard Marx)
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To: scottjewell

This guy isn’t a conservative. He’s a leftist in the traditional sense of the word and uses their arguements with delightful abandon. That alone should leave this moron out of any serious debate let alone allowing him to claim to be a conservative. Anyone who compares homosexual activism as equivalent to black civil rights has lost their minds. Blacks had restricted voting rights, they had restrictions on use of public facilities buses etc not just private ones they sufferred discrimination simply because of their race not anything related to their character or personal choice. A person who doesn’t understand this really just isn’t very intelligent. They are one of the left’s pavlov dogs who have been brainwashed/pinkwashed into an emotive mess of intectually dishonest goo.

There is nothing peaceful about the lgbt movement. Ask those who supported prop 8, the businesses that were vandalized, the individuals who lost their jobs, the churches which were defaced by homosexual supporters and their ilk. The magnitude of bad behavior from Homosexuals dwarfed any by prop any by prop 8 supporters but almost zero attention was paid to it. No one focused on the concerted organized effort at intimiate ad bully Prop 8 supporters. Instead the press lifts up every Christian fauxps or gay attack or suicide into a national quandry. That is the propaganda war we face.

This has nothing to do with liberty. Gays have the exact same liberty that every America does. None of us have a right to a blank check marriage license from the government.
The other night there was a show covering objectsexuals who have personal sexual relationships with cars and such. Do we grant marriage licenses and confer licenses for any possible sexual/emotional arrangement a person desires because that that is the lgbtqia (they keep adding letters) argument. Also they are working to shut down allowing those who have unwanted sexual desires help. As much as a third or more of “gay” men trace their sexual desires to sexual abuse as a child. The lgbtq community would have these individuals be forced to affirm their unwanted desires that were perpetrated on them as innocent children. It doesn’t matter that it is exactly these type of individuals that are at greater risk of continuing a cycle of abuse. Al of that doesn’t matter because all that matters is the political myth which is no more founded in fact than global warming.

I feel simultaneously angry and sad for this guy. He is a victim of a culture and politics gone mad and a fuzzy thinking that has become the norm for many. That he doesn’t realize that what the left was doing to Chickfila was just a taste of the PC orwellian future that awaits which has nothing at all to do with his gay friends. I have gay friends but I also know their histories which is why I will never support his idea of the gayutopian future because at its very core is a lie.


42 posted on 08/04/2012 11:23:33 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Now lets return to our regular scheduled deprogramming.)
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To: scottjewell

Here’s the same guy on Climate Change same leftists spew different issue. He’s not even a Rhino hes just a leftist.

http://old.hiphoprepublican.com/opinion/2011/09/04/chris-ladd-why-conservatives-are-cautious-about-climate-change/


43 posted on 08/04/2012 11:31:23 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Now lets return to our regular scheduled deprogramming.)
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To: fwdude

The larger issue is that if the Progressive Fascists get away, you will be too afraid of having such a conversation lest it result in public condemnation, retaliation against your business and the like.

This really isn’t about gay marriage. That’s just the spark/catalyst. It’s really about the Left suppressing opinions they don’t happen to agree with.


44 posted on 08/04/2012 11:32:35 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Maelstorm

Thank you for your eloquently-stated post and for your strong graps of basic and irrefutable logic.

I too feel sorry for the GOPer or for anyone who has somehow missed the actual hidden agenda of what flies under the radar as “Equality for Gays” but what is in fact about something far less just and far more destructive and pernicious.


45 posted on 08/04/2012 11:34:18 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Maelstorm

I guess calling himself, “GOP Lifer” is either a joke or some sort of camouflage. He asserts that he is conservative but as you say is leftist 3x over. Thanks for linking.


46 posted on 08/04/2012 11:36:23 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

Welcome. Sometimes I feel like I’m arguing with marshmellows or someone high on some kind of mushroom. Its like they are medicated with something that keeps them from seeing beyond the surface and their feelings.


47 posted on 08/04/2012 11:39:56 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Now lets return to our regular scheduled deprogramming.)
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To: scottjewell

My argument against gay marriage has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with survival of the species.

In a long ago undergrad anthropology class, we looked at beliefs held by different cultures and found that may of the beliefs and customs from the cultures were attributed to a deity by the culture, but were really quite practical for survival of the culture at the time and place of the social group. An example, not eating pork. Without modern cooking methods, pork was full of nasty things that could kill you. A ban on eating pork meant fewer people getting sick and dying and better survival of the species.

Now, looking at homosexual marriage (I refuse to ay gay because all of the homosexual I have know were not happy people, but were all suffering in some way). Marriage being between one man and one woman, or even one man and many women leads to babies and babies mean the species has a good chance of surviving, at least for one more generation. That’s why even the Greeks, who had a big thing for young boys, still married women to bear their children. That’s why marriage has always been between men and women, it is the only way to encourage reproduction and guarantee survival of the species.

Marriage between one man and one man or between one woman and one woman is like non-alcoholic beer. There’s a resemblance between the copy and the original, but only the original gets the job done.

And for those who will argue what about marriages with no chance of reproduction because of age of the woman or defect in one of the partners aren’t seeing the forest through the trees. The very act of encouraging men and women to marry and to have sexual relations benefits the entire culture, even if some of the members will not be able to reproduce.

So, encouraging a practice which has a negative effect on the chances of that culture’s continuation is just plain suicide for that culture (as is kill off the young of the species, but I’ve already pontificated enough for today).


48 posted on 08/04/2012 11:40:28 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: scottjewell

>> He is buying into the whole ridiculous “gay rights = civil rights” argument

Forcing individuals to sanction and support homosexual behavior is not a “civil right” — it’s oppression.


49 posted on 08/04/2012 11:46:29 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: KosmicKitty

Of course I agree.

Just wondering , though- how would you argue with, say, gay males who would assure you that they will still reproduce and pass on their sperm via surrogate mothers, as is now a new trend among them (Elton John being a famous example, but thousands of others are doing it as well). And lesbians who would tell you they will use sperm donors? (to me this is a whole new ethical problem which needs reigning in soon).

I know some countries have VERY STRICT prohibitions around reproductive technology, but the U.S. is not one of them.


50 posted on 08/04/2012 11:46:36 AM PDT by scottjewell
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